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[Ciderpress]

Yeah the Penny thing was just dumb on his part, although he's still the good guy in that story and I'm 100% glad he was not convicted. Just full mount the dude and hold his wrists, unless there's a massive size imbalance that's usually plenty. Penny put him in some awkward rear choke and held it, he should have known better. But it's also a really dicey situation so who knows, at least the jury got it right.

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Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah the Penny thing was just dumb on his part, although he's still the good guy in that story and I'm 100% glad he was not convicted. Just full mount the dude and hold his wrists, unless there's a massive size imbalance that's usually plenty. Penny put him in some awkward rear choke and held it, he should have known better. But it's also a really dicey situation so who knows, at least the jury got it right.

The few times I’ve been close to a fight my heart starts going super fast and I get really excited. I think that’s the case for most people unless fighting is their actual job, then I’m assuming it feels like any other “day at the office”

With that adrenaline going it’s easier to make a mistake and not notice the kind of damage you are doing

So yea I agree while it was a bit negligent to not let go of that choke sooner, this is a dude who had his life verbally threatened like everyone else on that train and was defending people and himself with his adrenaline going

And in fact if this happened on the regular, where as soon as someone starts wiggling out in public someone else comes up and chokes them out, we’d have a bit more of a polite society

I say a bit because things will only be so good when we continue to have the streets be our permanent insane asylums where we all have to watch people melt their fucking brains with hard drugs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ciderpress]

Absolutely, shutting down all the asylums was a huge mistake. I have a cousin who is a full blown paranoid schizophrenic, and he just makes life hell for everyone he knows. He isn't homeless, he's lucky enough to still have both his parents alive and he just lives in their basement at the age of 44, but I can't even imagine what dealing with that is actually like.

I'm pro death penalty but I'm also pro the insanity defense. Some people really do just need to be in a padded room. High-minded politicians inflicting them on the rest of society is complete madness.

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Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Absolutely, shutting down all the asylums was a huge mistake. I have a cousin who is a full blown paranoid schizophrenic, and he just makes life hell for everyone he knows. He isn't homeless, he's lucky enough to still have both his parents alive and he just lives in their basement at the age of 44, but I can't even imagine what dealing with that is actually like.

I'm pro death penalty but I'm also pro the insanity defense. Some people really do just need to be in a padded room. High-minded politicians inflicting them on the rest of society is complete madness.

Yknow what’s interesting though when it comes to insane homeless people doing random attacks on strangers

Unless they are not quite as insane as they are making out, or if they are, there is a part of their brain that still understands the idea of picking a fight you think you can win, but for whatever reason they still tend to go for people that are smaller and weaker than them

I mean, technically for any of us, whether it’s a fight or especially a war time situation, you should always try to ONLY EVER go into a combat situation where you KNOW you have a significant advantage, especially when you are putting your very life on the line. When other’s lives are on the line, then all bets are off

But even super crazy homeless dudes tend to still choose to sucker punch little Asian women, or old frail 60yr old men. I have almost never in my life seen a video of a homeless psycho walking up and sucker punching a thugged out dude who’s like twice their size, no matter how crazy the homeless dude is

So, irregardless of how much you think it does (or in the case of some people here, think it doesn’t) help in a fight, being big and in shape is and always will be a deterrent. You just have to look like trouble, you don’t have to actually be trouble

I think the problem is so many dudes get big in order to have that as a deterrent, but it warps their mind and turns them into a bully, a tyrant. And sometimes they do end up getting humbled by someone much smaller, and that’s always glorious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yknow what’s interesting though when it comes to insane homeless people doing random attacks on strangers

Unless they are not quite as insane as they are making out, or if they are, there is a part of their brain that still understands the idea of picking a fight you think you can win, but for whatever reason they still tend to go for people that are smaller and weaker than them

I mean, technically for any of us, whether it’s a fight or especially a war time situation, you should always try to ONLY EVER go into a combat situation where you KNOW you have a significant advantage, especially when you are putting your very life on the line. When other’s lives are on the line, then all bets are off

But even super crazy homeless dudes tend to still choose to sucker punch little Asian women, or old frail 60yr old men. I have almost never in my life seen a video of a homeless psycho walking up and sucker punching a thugged out dude who’s like twice their size, no matter how crazy the homeless dude is

So, irregardless of how much you think it does (or in the case of some people here, think it doesn’t) help in a fight, being big and in shape is and always will be a deterrent. You just have to look like trouble, you don’t have to actually be trouble

I think the problem is so many dudes get big in order to have that as a deterrent, but it warps their mind and turns them into a bully, a tyrant. And sometimes they do end up getting humbled by someone much smaller, and that’s always glorious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Totally, I agree with all of this. You do kind of wonder sometimes if they're as crazy as they seem or if they're just faking it to a degree, because there's a perverse incentive to do so. There are tons of cases of people pretending to be crazy in police interrogations in the anticipation of a lighter (or no) sentence.

Rational self interest is a powerful force that extends to almost everybody. Bath salts are still the exception to that rule haha, a dude on bath salts will try to chew the face off anybody, big or small. To a lesser extent synthetic marijuana too. People are kind of conditioned by pop culture to assume meth and heroin are the main things to watch out for, and they're both certainly mega destructive, but give me that over a bath salt junkie any day.

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Nailed it

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“I have the freedom to do whatever I want, always”

- the more of that you want, the more likely you end up a slave to a substance anyway

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Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

“I have the freedom to do whatever I want, always”

- the more of that you want, the more likely you end up a slave to a substance anyway

This is just asceticism idk why he’s being quoted like he’s a philosopher

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Originally Posted by F0rmsh1fter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is just asceticism idk why he’s being quoted like he’s a philosopher

Appreciate learning a new word, but I don’t think it applies like you think it does:

Asceticism: severe self-discipline and avoidance of all forms of indulgence, typically for religious reasons

Doesn’t apply as much to Kipchoge, he is a world record holding marathon runner, so his avoidance of indulgence is for the goal of becoming elite at what he is practicing. Nothing to do with religion

And that’s I assume what his message is. Avoiding SOME indulgences (not all, it’s not like the average person who adopts his attitude is going to stop putting sugar in their coffee, or stop ever turning on a single episode of a a tv show for the rest of their life), not only helps one to become better at reaching their goals, but it also prevents the risk of becoming a slave to those indulgences