Warriors are useless in 90% of the games content

[Beckoning]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Naethyn already pulled your pants down.

LOL

[Naethyn]

Shadowknights are the worst dps melee in the game fyi.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shadowknights are the worst dps melee in the game fyi.

That has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. P99 Knights are still doing above average DPS when compared to the gear level that is expected for most content. The average P99 player is much better geared than what the developers balanced the content around.

You don't seem to understand how DPS diminishing returns work.

If you kill Fungi King in 100 seconds with an SK instead of 70 seconds with a Warrior, you still have to wait 30 minutes for a respawn. In this simple example, the pull utility of a Knight is far superior to the extra DPS of a Warrior. This is because killing Fungi King 30 seconds faster will not grant you any extra Fungi King kills within a single session. You'd have to kill Fungi King 60 times in a row to get 1 extra spawn, which is 30 hours straight with no breaks.

[Naethyn]

I know you think ogres are amazing, and shadowknights are ultra powerful, and if that's how you want to play no one can stop you. I also won't stop you from picking ideal scenarios where your reality is true. But please don't try to apply it to most other things it looks silly.

The end of the story is knights are less dps, less health, and less mitigation and as you get higher level it becomes more and more evident. Shitty hybrid spells are useful when you play with bad players, but in reality you should probably just be swinging your weapon more, and warriors do that almost twice as good at 60.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know you think ogres are amazing, and shadowknights are ultra powerful, and if that's how you want to play no one can stop you. I also won't stop you from picking ideal scenarios where your reality is true. But please don't try to apply it to most other things it looks silly.

This is incorrect. Attacking other players with lies and nonsense just makes you look bad.

If you want to go down this route, people can just claim you are biased due to being a Warrior main. Then we are back to square one.

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The end of the story is knights are less dps, less health, and less mitigation and as you get higher level it becomes more and more evident. Shitty hybrid spells are useful when you play with bad players, but in reality you should probably just be swinging your weapon more, and warriors do that almost twice as good at 60.

Knights have more utility than Warriors. Most content can be slowed, which means it usually doesn't matter that Warriors have better mitigation. DPS has diminishing returns because respawn timers exist, and P99 players have above average gear for their level. If you are waiting for respawns, and can recover before the respawns occur, you have already hit your DPS threshold.

You can choose to ignore these realities, but it won't change reality. Knights are better than Warriors for the vast majority of content, excluding content that needs Warrior Discs.

[Snaggles]

Warrior dps can be good, just like their aggro can be. They just don’t get both at the same time.

This is all very stupid. No class is losing group slots to another class because the servers have 300-600 people on at any one point.

The age old dilemma to aggro issues is a self correcting problem. Let the drool-rag dps take dirt naps. In most difficult low-man fights if you don’t have a defensive warrior just add a spot healer, like a Druid.

[Troxx]

Oh jeeze … DSM is all triggered over some dumbass bullshit again

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh jeeze … DSM is all triggered over some dumbass bullshit again

Troxx only came back to post more nonsense it seems. Unfortunate. I am not sure why he thinks anybody cares.

You can see how triggered he is just by looking at his location and signature lol. If anybody disagrees with him or he is wrong about something, he just can't take it.

[Jimjam]

Maybe knights are better than warriors when mana regen is around, but without mana regen (and in a busy group they may not get the opportunity to med) they get little benefit from their stuns.

At least blood ember offers passable solutions for the core spell lines.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe knights are better than warriors when mana regen is around, but without mana regen (and in a busy group they may not get the opportunity to med) they get little benefit from their stuns.

At least blood ember offers passable solutions for the core spell lines.

Clickies and FT items go a long way in saving mana. I don't have mana problems in groups, even busy ones. If it's busy, you're killing mobs quickly, which means you don't need to use more expensive spells like lifetap. Just use your cheap agro spells and save mana for a bad situation.