Eccezan (TMOfficer) and Thebest get logged by GM and subsequently get banned for MQ

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Lorraine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They had to wait 13 years to be top dogs, gotta give them credit for their patience at least. Logging in game/vent from cars/work for pixels is a clear evolution step.

Check out server histories... we were on top in live too =) Derp

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Godefroi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sound like a midget trying jump to grab a cookie on the table.

You are still invited to my birthday, and you and I can still share a Corona.

You will have to deal with Mortiiss getting all the chicks though.

I am just Roleplaying you and Mortiiss today.

Obviously.

[Godefroi]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am just Roleplaying you and Mortiiss today.

Obviously.

hehe I find it rather entertaining.

What sort of meat do you like for BBQs ?

Will a Corona be fine, and you would like some stronger German/irish beer to match ?

The pool gets up to 26* in the hot days of august, I hope this suits you.

If you wish to move out, the RER A will take you anywhere you want in Paris, I thought we could go to Montmartre for some late evening cocktail and then wander around the sacré coeur.

You in ?
what do you think ?

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Thana8088 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No disassemble Johnny Five!! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Need input!

[49shadesofgay]

My Lord the navy really fucked with Alarti's head.

I have honestly never seen somebody so clearly damaged.

Tragic.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WHat if a 30 min corpse went down to 13 seconds, a person was told it was ok to loot, looted a worthless item, then was told "someone was on the way to loot that". The person who looted, said OK, np, just have a gm move the item please, sorry for the accident and confusion. But instead of a simple item transfer, TMO made a huge deal over it and got the guy suspended for 1 week. An ignorant weapon that rots all the time, as opposed to ninja looting a bard epic item and trying to do the turn in real fast before a gm can rule for FTE.

EXAM ID: 8312

This is a question of agency and authority. The answer hinges upon what type of agency is present, whether there was actual or apparent authority, and whether or not the looter knew or should have known if it were proper for him to loot the item after apparently being granted "permission" by the apparent agent.

Scenario A: Looter granted authority to loot by raid representative/agent with actual authority from the principal leadership. Actual authority exists if the agent was expressly (written or oral) granted the authority to consent to the looter's looting, or if the principal's conduct would would lead a reasonable person in the agent's position to believe that the principal had authorized the agent to grant looting authority to a third party.

In the fact pattern presented, the looter was granted authority to loot a rotting item. The item was looted properly and then the looter was informed by an unnamed authority only after the irreversible looting had occurred that the looting was improper and that a mistake had been made. In this case, the looter should have no liability as he, at the time of the looting, was validly authorized to loot by an agent of the raid's principal. If the looter was indeed suspended, then the principal will be liable to the looter for the misinformation of his agent that caused the looter to get into trouble in the first place. Under the tort rule, the principle is liable for torts of the agent (here, negligence/mistake of the agent in erroneously granting loot rights that ended up getting the looter suspended) when committed within the scope of his employment. The fact pattern does not give us additional facts as to whether or not such negligence would be within the scope of the agent's employment. If such an act were non-delegable or not within the agent's scope of employment, the agent himself (as opposed to the principal) will be liable to the looter.

Scenario B: Looter granted no real authority by individual acting as an agent with no capacity to do so. In this case, if the looter was told to loot the item by a person without authority to grant such a looting, the looter will be solely responsible for his actions and the suspension will be held as legitimate. However, the looter might be able to appeal his liability on the grounds that the agent/permission grantor had apparent authority to act. Apparent authority exists if principal's words or conduct would lead a reasonable person in the looter's position to believe that principal/raid leader had authorized the A to act (ex: power of position). In this case, the looter would no longer be liable. If the principal was undisclosed (unlikely given the general mechanics of a raid and the obviousness of raid leaders) there would be no apparent authority.

If apparent authority existed at the time of the looting, the agent will not be liable to the looter. This is because the principal's actions created apparent authority which dissolves any agent -> looter liability (again, unless the principal is undisclosed or partially disclosed, not likely here as explained). The agent will be liable to the principle because the agent owe a fiduciary duty to the principal, and he had no actual authority (unless the principal's actions that created apparent authority also created constructive actual authority to the agent as well).

Conclusion Under the fact pattern presented, the looter should possess no liability if he was granted permission to loot by an agent of the raid leader/principle with actual or apparent authority to do so. If the looter was indeed suspended as the fact pattern suggests, he can pursue claims against the principal (if actual or apparent authority existed in the agent and the actions were within the scope of the agent's duties). If the suspension was granted and no such authority existed, the looter has no recourse if he knew or should have known that the authority did not exist. Otherwise, he can pursue the agent.

Misc. The looter might pursue an appeal by relying upon the previous case of Ninjaing real fast to turn in bard guts v. GM's checking FTE, 45 RnF 234, 247 (P99-2013). In specific, the looter might claim that ninja looting is "cool" cause the other guy did it and got away with it. Totally.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by 49shadesofgay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My Lord the navy really fucked with Alarti's head.

I have honestly never seen somebody so clearly damaged.

Tragic.

Thanks for your input, input. You are a well respected member of this community as seen by your anonymous status. Your opinion is highly valued as you have added so much value and intelligent discussion to this forum.

^That was sarcasm if you are super thick

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Godefroi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hehe I find it rather entertaining.

What sort of meat do you like for BBQs ?

Will a Corona be fine, and you would like some stronger German/irish beer to match ?

The pool gets up to 26* in the hot days of august, I hope this suits you.

If you wish to move out, the RER A will take you anywhere you want in Paris, I thought we could go to Montmartre for some late evening cocktail and then wander around the sacré coeur.

You in ?
what do you think ?

Are you trying to seduce me? 'Cause its working. Corona is absolutely not fine.. WTF man!

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Amelinda was not in TMO and never did anything for TMO.
2. Bisch....

Game.Set.Match.

[Tue Jan 31 01:08:24 2012] Ambrotos says, 'i dont see a frost aoe going off'
[Tue Jan 31 01:08:59 2012] Ambrotos says, 'i would advise you to camp out and reset her'
[Tue Jan 31 01:09:08 2012] Heliax says, 'mobs having trouble is a known issue. I submitted a petition about 2-3 weeks ago. kanras made changes to fix it next patch'
[Tue Jan 31 01:09:40 2012] Ambrotos says, 'Get her out of the wall '
[Tue Jan 31 01:10:07 2012] Heliax says, 'its a known issue, kanras said he fixed it for next patch'
[Tue Jan 31 01:10:21 2012] Ambrotos says, 'so you're willing to exploit a known issue?'
[Tue Jan 31 01:10:24 2012] Wakky says, 'did the GM just heal the mob? lol'
[Tue Jan 31 01:10:26 2012] Wakky says, 'wow'
[Tue Jan 31 01:11:39 2012] Ambrotos says, 'Clearly you do know this is why guilds were banned and disbanded on red right?'

Tell us more, Alarti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Lorraine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tell us more, Alarti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No tell me more?