OCCUPY WALLSTREET!

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So to sum up Vaylore, when OWS breaks the law it's bad. When banksters and career politicians do, it's okay.

They're not actually breaking the law, though. The system is rigged to favour those in power. They're reaping the rewards. They get away with it because some people are willing to blindly follow since they have a taste of happiness. The reality is, they're addicted to servitude. McDonald's, religion, professional sports, Facebook, they're all examples of what's truly oppressive in this society. You might think that you enjoy participating in the partaking of it, but the reality is, they're all just mechanisms of brainwashing.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by vaylorie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol. "You disagree with me. You must be a racist nazi." Nice hasbinbad... Nice.

I'm just extending your reasoning to other situations. If the OWS protestors are wrong for breaking the law and deserve any lawful consequences they find themselves faced with, then surely the same is true of jews, women, and blacks? Indians? You know it was Ghandi who promoted civil disobedience? You do know who Ghandi was?

I never said you were a nazi or a racist, but if one logically extends your line of reasoning, it follows that the jews, blacks, and women must have been wrong for breaking the law, and deserved any consequences they faced.

Unless of course, you just said all that because you disagree with the OWS movement, and you were feebly grasping at something resembling an argument to back your opinion up? Try that with someone who isn't aware of a little thing called history, k?

[Kraftwerk]

Also, if you think these protests are going to fizzle out in a few months with the following coming within 2 years:

- Another United States credit downgrade
- The default of the 8th largest economy in the world (Italy)
- The default of the 12th largest economy in the world (Spain)
- A French credit downgrade
- Germany leaving the Eurozone and Euro currency
- The implosion of the Euro currency

And these things coming in the next 5-10 years :

- Global hyperinflation and wealth devaluation
- Global depression

Than, I am interested in what you've been smoking.

[Kraftwerk]

I forgot to add another couple things :

- The implosion of the Chinese real estate markets
- The global impact of realization that China is headed for a hard landing and has been inflating statistics for a while

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by vaylorie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will say that I don't think that because it is a law it is inherently 'right' but I do think that laws should be either enforced or changed.

Have you heard of the Nuremberg trials? Do you know what the term "Nuremberg Defense" means?

There is no valid mechanism to change laws in any meaningful way from within the system. The laws we have in this society are largely imposed on us by people who have no idea what it is like to live in the conditions we face on a daily basis. On top of that, monied interests, in the form of lobbyists, constantly use their wealth and power to effect changes in laws that benefit their sponsors, and may negatively effect the citizens.

This is what Jefferson warned us about.

"Right and Responsibility," and all that..

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do know who Ghandi was?

Old guy, wore diapers, right?

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what Jefferson warned us about.

Another old guy with a powdered whig, right?

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you heard of the Nuremberg trials?

Never heard of him, though! Sounds German.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Old guy, wore diapers, right?
Another old guy with a powdered whig, right?
Never heard of him, though! Sounds German.

rofl <3

[vaylorie]

Kraft, yes some if not all of those will happen. Let me ask this, how is OWS going to change that or 'fix' the situation?

[Hasbinbad]

Kraft, I will come back to our discussion, but thinking as hard as you push me to causes pain in my current state. I appreciate it, but need to break for a while longer on it.. Just saying this again because you might have thought I forgot about it. I didn't. I'm still able to post to this vay cunt because I really don't even have to think to respond to him.

TTY Tomorrow prolly.

[vaylorie]

Hasbinbad, you are comparing the genocide of millions of Jews to time/place/manner & private property limitations on assembly & speech?