If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by Bruno [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can see your mirror neurons are working properly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

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[Henini]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd say there's quite a lot of doubt about the existence of Muhammad, but maybe we have different definitions of that word. If you mean there are a lot of copies of the Qur'an, I'll have to yield the point, if you will grant me that the existence of lots of Marvel comics means that Spiderman is a real guy, too.

What the hell, are you implying Spiderman isn't real? But there are book and stories even movies about him, lots and lots of it too! How can he not be real? I have been devoting my life to worshiping him!!!! OMG!!!! OMG!!! OMG!!!

[Ponden]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You all should read a book called "The First Three Seconds" - expand yo minds bitches.

You mean "The First Three Minutes" by Steven Weinberg?

[abegeden]

if you play project 99, youre an idiot.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Originally Posted by Ponden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean "The First Three Minutes" by Steven Weinberg?

yeah, sry, three minutes. its been awhile. And the first 3 seconds are more what people are referring to (intentionally or not) when they say that "time as we understand it vis-a-vis physics operates differently under certain circumstances" ITT. Im tired, that sentence is not so well crafted, but you know what i mean.

[chtulu]

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[azxten]

I find it fascinating the way people use science as a replacement for God and continue the same fallacies they fault religious people for.

Faith in GOD?!? YOU ARE STUPIIDDDD!!!!

I have faith that atoms are little balls that spin around.. Oh wait, no that model is wrong now.. I have faith that tiny strings of ener.. oh wait, that's wrong too now..

RELIGION IS THE SOURCE OF ALL INJUSTICE AND SUFFERING!111!!1

*BP ruins an entire ecosystem using quite literally the most advanced technology and scientific knowledge available to mankind*

Derrrrrppp....

You're all idiots.

[Azazel]

I find it fascinating the way people use science as a replacement for God and continue the same fallacies they fault religious people for.

Faith in GOD?!? YOU ARE STUPIIDDDD!!!!

I have faith that atoms are little balls that spin around.. Oh wait, no that model is wrong now.. I have faith that tiny strings of ener.. oh wait, that's wrong too now..

RELIGION IS THE SOURCE OF ALL INJUSTICE AND SUFFERING!111!!1

*BP ruins an entire ecosystem using quite literally the most advanced technology and scientific knowledge available to mankind*

Derrrrrppp....

You're all idiots.

I don't get it. Are you trolling or being intentionally ignorant?

All scientific knowledge is gained though observation of phenomena and the postulation of hypotheses. The hypothesis that best explains the phenomena is used until a better one is found. Science therefore goes through continual self examination, ideas are held up to be criticized and this is the scientific methods great strength.

There is no 'faith' in this method of obtaining knowledge.

Religions on the other hand are rigidly defined belief systems based upon faith.

[Gukag]

He has a point though. Science is about constantly re-examining conclusions and "laws" and addapting to new knowledge, true.
But some retards, militant atheists being the most common, approach it as an extremely rigid form of faith too. We have found nothing in our quest for knowledge that truly discredits the idea of a "god" like being, any more than we have found proof for one. It is, at least so far, an unanswerable question (where ma agnostics at).
Atheists using science as a cudgel against religion is just ironic. Quite a good number will say religion is the greatest evil in the world. Which of course completely misses the point. Religion itself isn't "evil", whatever the fuck that means. It's just a tool for manipulation. It's a tribal identity, something common to all peoples everywhere throughout all ages. May as well say family is the source of all evil, or nationality, or languages, or any form of extended tribal identity, anything that separates one group of humans from another and can be used as a puppet string. "They are DIFFERENT, so you must kill them, steal their cattle, drive them away, etc"..True source of evil is just people, greedy, selfish people with a lust for power.
Which doesn't change the fact that a lot of what people believe as far as religion goes is totally fucking stupid.

[fastboy21]

there is a difference between real scientists/science, and the way most people view science.

educated scientists understand the difference between proven and theory, model and observed, hypothesis and evidence. many non-scientists (i.e. common every day folks) do not.

instead, many of these people simply look to science to tell them "truth" without any sort of skepticism or understanding. when you do this you make science your "faith"---and even in some sense make science into a god to be worshiped.

science in and of itself is not good or evil, at least not good or evil in any active sense of the words. as a tool, however, science (i.e. the knowledge we've learned as a species to manipulate our world in the last few hundred years) has been used to create horrible problems for the human species, as well as do great good.

what is so confusing to me is why when people can easily understand that science is simply a tool with which the human species can choose to do good or evil, why is it so hard to understand religion also is a tool that can be used to do good or evil (and is not intrinsically either).