Greed rolls on this "classic server"

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Mishami [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Explain to me how its more fair for 1 person to potentially get all the loot in a group?.

It's fair because its completely random you idiot, how can we simplify this any more for you?

Should i be at a disadvantage because my name starts with M over a guy who has a character named Aalpha, when there is no way to determine ahead of time how many gems will drop and how long the group will last?

[Zehv9]

Originally Posted by Mishami [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How can the alpha system be abused? I have seen a person win all the loot in a group before as well...more than once and I know its not a grand scheme to rob someone of loot its just unfair to not just me but everyone. personally I feel if i win something the next thing that drops pending on its worth i would just give to the other person. I have no problem doing that because im not a selfish person that is my point.

You're right, I shouldn't have said only. Fixed that.

Though like I said, there's nothing unfair about it. It is by the definition of the word, fair.

[theaetatus]

If only one item drops in a group and one person gets it, in Mishami's eyes they are a 'lootwhore' as they got all the items that dropped. In order to not be considered a 'lootwhore' they should make a note of all the names of the people in the group, request their email addresses and give the next 5 items they receive to these people. This is the only fair solution.

[Sturgeon]

Stop being a pussy and say something.

To be honest you sound like a loot whore who is bitter that someone else got all of the drops this time around.

[Spitty]

Originally Posted by Mishami [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Greed all is strangers powerlooting someone's char moron. what im describing is making so everyone gets a loot...!!!!!! omfg

You aren't making a lick of sense.

Stop. Just...stop what you're doing. It's embarrassing me as an oxygen-consuming life form.

[Furniture]

lets not get in to this again, just end it with any item that drops is an upgrade for anyone and it is greedy to just claim the item for a "need",

NBG- Greedy
Greed - fair

edit: before some idiot says "HOW IS IT AN UPGRADE FOR EVERYONE IF ITS MONK ONLY", remember that if its tradeable then it is sellable which = an upgrade for every class

[Furniture]

i just read the op's post now, my bad and i blame it on the marijuana, the previous still stands, but in regards to what your saying it is completely fair since it is a random chance for everyone, you win some you lose some, i can see how it would be a lot nicer for everyone to split everything equally and that can be discussed but if someone wins multiple rolls and then decides that he doesnt want to share, it would be unfair to penalize him for his decision, it should have been determined beforward and thats just being a whiny bitch, you will get lucky one day (maybe) and win lots of randoms in a seb group

[Spitty]

They legalized it in NY too? Hot damn!

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Mishami [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did not take part in it because it inspires a bad personality type and for the last time I'm not talking about need before greed I'm talking about greed rolls and yes "loot whore" was invented because people wanting to roll on everything. I wish people had just actually played live so they know what they are talking about...

I played on live, from virtually day one...

It never ceases to amaze how some folks assume that anyone who disagrees with them is somehow ignorant. Can it possibly be that people who know all about EQ, played on live, etc just simply don't agree with you???

You are talking about "need vs. greed" (whether you want to or not) because it is tied to the decision about how to allow rolling and assigning of loot.

There is a difference between fair and equal. Equal means everyone in the group gets the same thing, fair means they get the same process. It is very possible to be fair without everyone getting an equal share of the booty.

In any case, its been debated for over a decade at this point and I don't see it being brought to any special conclusion here in this thread.

The best way to avoid problems related to loot is to make sure the loot rules are clear and explained when a group forms and to tell new people who join the group. Most problems related to loot arguments happen when there are no agreed upon rules upfront and then something valuable drops. Its too late at that point to try to assign loot rules, and arguments suddenly appear.

[Spitty]

Right. Set the expectation. Discuss. Possibly collaborate and listen.

Life lessons right there.

Or, try and browbeat an entire group into playing by your version of the rules and see how quickly your bank explodes with untold riches.