2012 Presidential Debates

[hatelore]

Capitalism has been proven to work I think. But there's a difference between honest capitalism and corrupt capitalism, right now we have the latter. I think that to make capitalism work and flourish, it requires an honest society with people that have some sort of ethics and a morale high ground. See where I'm going with this?

Our biggest problem isn't corporations or government. In my honest opinion our biggest problem is we have a degradation of society. People nowadays lack Morales. You could blame it on Hollywood,failed school systems or whatever, but it does exist and it is destroying us, slowly. Just one man's opinion, please don't flame me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[hatelore]

and I seriously should have stayed out of politics, I can yap about this kind of stuff all day hah.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm being honest in saying, we will never know. Because instead of letting capitalism play out and letting a failing entity do just that, we said no its okay your poor decisions are now rewarded. And the single regulation that might have made a difference still stands repealed - Glass Steagell.

Frankly, capitalism is the played out, failing entity that we won't allow to die. It'll take us all down with it before we can put it out of our collective misery.

That's really neither here no there, though, because there's more to an election and a party's platform than mere fiscal policy. Personally, after wasting my vote on the Green Party in 2000 due to well-meaning, ineffectual angst over our two-party system--I tend to vote for the candidate that will appoint the type of justices I prefer. That's what I'd recommend libertarians do with their vote if they don't want to just wipe their butts with their ballots.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our biggest problem isn't corporations or government. In my honest opinion our biggest problem is we have a degradation of society. People nowadays lack Morales. You could blame it on Hollywood,failed school systems or whatever, but it does exist and it is destroying us, slowly. Just one man's opinion, please don't flame me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well if it's Morales we lack, we need to change our immigration policies. Derp.

[hatelore]

I actually disagree with the fact that capitalism is a failure. Capitalism brought about the creation of the only true utopia on earth(USA). Capitalism made it to where any man can become whatever he wants, if he has the proper guidance through life and he has the inner will to work for it.

That is something that past history never allowed for the common man. To become whatever you wanted as long as you were willing to work for it.

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well if it's Morales we lack, we need to change our immigration policies. Derp.

I completely agree, that is one step in the right direction. But the laws are already there, politicians just need to have the backbone to enforce them.

[Rain1]

Pretty sure he is poking fun at your Hatelore. You typed Morales, a common last name of Hispanic/Latino people. The word you wanted was morals. Barking is witty

[Soleryn]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Capitalism brought about the creation of the only true utopia on earth(USA).

While I agree that our country is wonderful in many ways and provides ample opportunity, using a phrase like that will cause most people to think you have no grasp on the real world...or are voting Libertarian. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Soleryn]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well if it's Morales we lack, we need to change our immigration policies. Derp.

This made me chuckle. +1

[hatelore]

Lol yeah sorry [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] just a simple working man here, sometimes my spelling sucks. And yeah , was def over my head haha didn't even realize he was poking fun at me haha.