Proposed Resist System Changes - Lucy

[SearyxTZ]

and yet this server seemingly balanced against it, unless the goal was to give the guild with the zerg numbers an even greater advantage by allowing them to land cc spells on the 1 guy to their 10


Like I said earlier you can't even chance a 1v3 here because your ability to escape or outmaneuver anyone is severely diminished

[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and yet this server seemingly balanced against it, unless the goal was to give the guild with the zerg numbers an even greater advantage by allowing them to land cc spells on the 1 guy to their 10


Like I said earlier you can't even chance a 1v3 here because your ability to escape or outmaneuver anyone is severely diminished

Not with high MR. again I have never landed Root on Feen, Tehruoh, Wakawaka, or Hughman. I don't even try now. waka is not even a warrior, he just had high mr. some honorable mentions are Ordaga (I think ive rooted once) and Chewie (rooted twice.)

[SearyxTZ]

What are you talking about dude, haha. This resist system pushes it towards WoW and away from classic EQ. I think that was sort of Null's intention.

I respect him but I personally hated WoW PvP when I played it (warrior.... auto-charge to target, use 92342 forms of CC, kill guy in three seconds). What I liked about classic EQ is how not like WoW it was, with some fights lasting 10+ minutes and tons of manual movement/chasing/juking involved.

[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are you talking about dude, haha. This resist system pushes it towards WoW and away from classic EQ. I think that was sort of Null's intention.

I respect him but I personally hated WoW PvP when I played it (warrior.... auto-charge to target, use 92342 forms of CC, kill guy in three seconds). What I liked about classic EQ is how not like WoW it was, with some fights lasting 10+ minutes and tons of manual movement/chasing/juking involved.

the thing is there is pretty much CC immunity here, you just have to work for it. i dont see how this is a problem on a game that has been out for 13 years. there is no unknown or new gear to find. its all in the wiki. quit comparing the population in 99 to the population now.

[tokso]

Originally Posted by SamwiseBanned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the thing is there is pretty much CC immunity here, you just have to work for it. i dont see how this is a problem on a game that has been out for 13 years. there is no unknown or new gear to find. its all in the wiki. quit comparing the population in 99 to the population now.

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all there is, is MASSIVE exaggeration about how much root actually lands and some dumb theorycrafting about how that will affect pvp, when pvp is in fact fine.

(or as fine as shitty EQ pvp can be)

[SamwiseBanned]

ive seen zero examples of root breaking mass pvp. ive also been in 0 pvp battles where root was the deciding factor of who won.

[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by SamwiseBanned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ive seen zero examples of root breaking mass pvp. ive also been in 0 pvp battles where root was the deciding factor of who won.

[SearyxTZ]

so now it's outdoors 1v1s that are the problem? I thought it was the 5v1s where everyone spammed root?

These two things aren't mutually exclusive.

all there is, is MASSIVE exaggeration about how much root actually lands and some dumb theorycrafting about how that will affect pvp, when pvp is in fact fine.

(or as fine as shitty EQ pvp can be)

Except it's not. It's not "better balanced" than classic was, and only 20% of people who voted in the poll favor it.

I agree this is being exaggerated, though. Quirks in the resist system didn't stop me from playing here. Most people would just deal with it / avoid playing the classes which are adversely affected by it.

Bigger population-stifling problem == 1-50 game being devoid of player interaction. This server is a really hard sell on casuals. It has its core hardcore contingent though, so whatever.

[SearyxTZ]

Also a rogue couldn't "fare well against 3 players", but he wouldn't eat an automatic death to a cheap spell that keeps him in one place with 0 chance of escape since he's not going to be channeling his pumice stone cast through anything. That's the difference.

On live the rogue would die only to good players who were able to stick to him.

Here he dies to bad players who spam root and get lucky with the resist rolls.


Should ask Gloinz how he feels about it since he's actually doing this exact scenario at 50+ against Nihilum. Probably dies a lot even though he shouldn't.

[Nirgon]

On live I had some very, very scuffles that coulda gone either way. They ended up with one of us zoning or completely eating shit if we got greedy.

Thorf comes to mind. He even left me his account when he quit. I ended up moving it to legends when that came out, playing it to 65 and 300+ AA and raiding some.

Reefman the Assassin chasing me with his fucking primal bow was another fun example. If I didn't have my epic, Jesus.