FTE is Fing stupid

[toyodafenninro]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With this attitude and the way TMO approaches other guilds on this server, if any other guild present or future consistently beats TMO to mobs, I'd say good luck getting a rotation.

If TMO was being consistently beaten, we wouldn't ask for a rotation. We would recruit more active players and step up our game. We'd do our best to make life hell for the other guild by contesting as many spawns as we could. A rotation would happen only if both guilds became mutually tired of the standstill. That's not the current case for the majority of raid mobs on the server.

[toyodafenninro]

Originally Posted by suptoofs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every other guild on this server is too casual right now to present any real competition.

Then let's hope they step up their game. Until then, lucky us.

[Splorf22]

Your game consists of sitting there for hours hitting the track button and being willing to jump up from the dinner table to log on at a moments notice.

I suppose winning is winning, but I just don't see how you can be so proud of this.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by toyodafenninro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We'd do our best to make life hell for the other guild by contesting as many spawns as we could.

Competition sure would be more appealing to the rest of the server if it didn't come down to making life hell. This is a game after all. If TMO actually wanted to compete, they'd be more open to playing with suggestions like the OP has posted. If it's truly competition you wanted, you'd also look at the pop and realize that all the hard cores are in your own guild and the majority of the server is casual. Of course there will be no competition in those circumstances. I don't think TMO wants to compete, I think TMO wants to control.

[Arrisard]

If OP was serious about wanting to negotiate the terms of a rotation, he would have contacted an officer/Zeelot ingame or PM here/TMO boards.

But that isn't nearly as fun, is it?

No, instead we get a post in Server Chat/RNF with some outright ridiculous terms "for the good of the server" with completely altruistic intentions.

Get real [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Adrieth]

Originally Posted by Arrisard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If OP was serious about wanting to negotiate the terms of a rotation, he would have contacted an officer/Zeelot ingame or PM here/TMO boards.

But that isn't nearly as fun, is it?

No, instead we get a post in Server Chat/RNF with some outright ridiculous terms "for the good of the server" with completely altruistic intentions.

Get real [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We've been down the road of trying to contact your leadership -- a pointless exercise IMO (even for stupid little things like sharing Cazic Skins with each other). Berty was putting this in a public forum for a good discussion, which it seems we're actually having! Keep it up! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Arrisard]

Oh, I never said anything would come of it.

But that's the point. You're not getting a rotation anytime soon. I know it, you know it, OP knows it. This thread has nothing to do with the actual expectation of coming to an agreement. It's all fluff and circle jerking.

[suptoofs]

Originally Posted by Arrisard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, I never said anything would come of it.

But that's the point. You're not getting a rotation anytime soon. I know it, you know it, OP knows it. This thread has nothing to do with the actual expectation of coming to an agreement. It's all fluff and circle jerking.

Then why suggest trying that, contradiction much?

[Adrieth]

Originally Posted by Arrisard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, I never said anything would come of it.

But that's the point. You're not getting a rotation anytime soon. I know it, you know it, OP knows it. This thread has nothing to do with the actual expectation of coming to an agreement. It's all fluff and circle jerking.

I don't think that's entirely true, honestly. I think in the right forum, with the right input from all sides, we can figure something out.

My personal take: This is a 13 year old game, and most of the people playing here have hardcore raiding experience from live. Frankly, I don't want a repeat of it. The days of waking up at 3am to log in for a kill are over for me. We're doing really stupid things for really old, boxy pixels. I'm willing to give some of mine up to have fun with others, and to let others have fun. I have to believe that many members of TMO would agree to this, despite their public remarks (you really like logging in that early for something that will end up being deleted in the end?).

However, as long as there is a guild out there who is taking this just as seriously as they did 10 years ago, no truce will be had. That much I can agree with.

[Arrisard]

Like Jeremy said, you can always try. I could be wrong. I would expect BDA leadership/members to do whatever they felt was right to try and do the best by their guild.

The thread, however, is still bullshit.