Zerg shit fest...

[BigTB]

Originally Posted by Wanders [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whats with the red discussion on a blue server is what I would like to know, yes I was Nihilum and no I am not here to talk trash. I am only here to point out what so many have missed and continue to miss.

Take a guild whose sole interest in the server is to eliminate "rotations" and "lists" that they had been putting up with on blue and move them to a red server. Nothing changes, primary objective is still killing dragons.

In order to maintain a monopoly on the servers dragons of course they are going to recruit as many as they can, loot was distributed by officers and DKP was used only as attendance checks not traditional bidding on items when I was playing here so the number of members actually in the guild makes no difference in who obtains pixels.

Most of us come from PVP servers and only care about loot to provide an edge in PVP. This is not how core Nihilum was when I played - I haven't played here in quite some time so some of these things may of changed but common chat in vent would be to avoid PVP unless there was an alternate incentive, PVP for the sake of PVP was very rare with only a few people actually wanting to go zone to zone hunting other guilds even when it would prevent other guilds from farming pixels it wasn't enough to get people interested in PVP it just isn't why they play. (Yes, there are exceptions but this was the mentality of 90% of the players when I was in the guild, if your the 10% you don't really need to point that out as people already know if you really are of the 10% because your out looking for targets)

The surge in population is causing people to think things are changing, they're not. It's the same box with the same management which is what the majority of people say was the reason they switched servers to begin with. The guilds sound pretty much the same except Nihilum is protecting it's monopoly by further increasing its ranks which if you look at it from the perspective outlined above shouldn't be surprising, not near as surprising as them actually engaging in PVP without a dragon to defend.

Thank you for the insight pal wanders, I think you are correct in your reasoning,

and we have even more reasons to lol in vent, WTB vent access to nihi, would
love to hear them talk during pvps

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Wanders [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whats with the red discussion on a blue server is what I would like to know, yes I was Nihilum and no I am not here to talk trash. I am only here to point out what so many have missed and continue to miss.

Take a guild whose sole interest in the server is to eliminate "rotations" and "lists" that they had been putting up with on blue and move them to a red server. Nothing changes, primary objective is still killing dragons.

In order to maintain a monopoly on the servers dragons of course they are going to recruit as many as they can, loot was distributed by officers and DKP was used only as attendance checks not traditional bidding on items when I was playing here so the number of members actually in the guild makes no difference in who obtains pixels.

Most of us come from PVP servers and only care about loot to provide an edge in PVP. This is not how core Nihilum was when I played - I haven't played here in quite some time so some of these things may of changed but common chat in vent would be to avoid PVP unless there was an alternate incentive, PVP for the sake of PVP was very rare with only a few people actually wanting to go zone to zone hunting other guilds even when it would prevent other guilds from farming pixels it wasn't enough to get people interested in PVP it just isn't why they play. (Yes, there are exceptions but this was the mentality of 90% of the players when I was in the guild, if your the 10% you don't really need to point that out as people already know if you really are of the 10% because your out looking for targets)

The surge in population is causing people to think things are changing, they're not. It's the same box with the same management which is what the majority of people say was the reason they switched servers to begin with. The guilds sound pretty much the same except Nihilum is protecting it's monopoly by further increasing its ranks which if you look at it from the perspective outlined above shouldn't be surprising, not near as surprising as them actually engaging in PVP without a dragon to defend.

Hit the nail on the head. The biggest thing that turned people off to this server was the lack of competition and option at the end game. If that continues to be the case all the people who came back will quit yet again after getting that kunark fix, because no one wants to PVP 3 on 20 and get zerged by people in god gear who are max level. You can say "do something about it" all you want, but the same thing seems to happen. Guild is made, people are geared and PLed and helped, said players disband when they hit level 46 and join nihilum. There's really nothing you can do about lazy people who have no desire to try to build something and would rather just log on and collect free loot. Here's hoping VV manages to buck the trend.

[BigTB]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hit the nail on the head. The biggest thing that turned people off to this server was the lack of competition and option at the end game. If that continues to be the case all the people who came back will quit yet again after getting that kunark fix, because no one wants to PVP 3 on 20 and get zerged by people in god gear who are max level. You can say "do something about it" all you want, but the same thing seems to happen. Guild is made, people are geared and PLed and helped, said players disband when they hit level 46 and join nihilum. There's really nothing you can do about lazy people who have no desire to try to build something and would rather just log on and collect free loot. Here's hoping VV manages to buck the trend.

I'll buck by your side any day pal HB

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Wanders [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whats with the red discussion on a blue server is what I would like to know, yes I was Nihilum and no I am not here to talk trash. I am only here to point out what so many have missed and continue to miss.

Take a guild whose sole interest in the server is to eliminate "rotations" and "lists" that they had been putting up with on blue and move them to a red server. Nothing changes, primary objective is still killing dragons.

In order to maintain a monopoly on the servers dragons of course they are going to recruit as many as they can, loot was distributed by officers and DKP was used only as attendance checks not traditional bidding on items when I was playing here so the number of members actually in the guild makes no difference in who obtains pixels.

Most of us come from PVP servers and only care about loot to provide an edge in PVP. This is not how core Nihilum was when I played - I haven't played here in quite some time so some of these things may of changed but common chat in vent would be to avoid PVP unless there was an alternate incentive, PVP for the sake of PVP was very rare with only a few people actually wanting to go zone to zone hunting other guilds even when it would prevent other guilds from farming pixels it wasn't enough to get people interested in PVP it just isn't why they play. (Yes, there are exceptions but this was the mentality of 90% of the players when I was in the guild, if your the 10% you don't really need to point that out as people already know if you really are of the 10% because your out looking for targets)

The surge in population is causing people to think things are changing, they're not. It's the same box with the same management which is what the majority of people say was the reason they switched servers to begin with. The guilds sound pretty much the same except Nihilum is protecting it's monopoly by further increasing its ranks which if you look at it from the perspective outlined above shouldn't be surprising, not near as surprising as them actually engaging in PVP without a dragon to defend.

I remember stating this MANY times. Nihilum is not into griefing, random gank squads and PVPing for the sake of PVP. We PVP over PVE.

And for that all of you should be glad. Because if we did decide to start griefing, random gank squads and PVPing for the sake of PVP...how many people do you think would really like to play here then?

Not many.

Or success is a result of people realizing once they get to 50 that the time invested is going to be for nothing if they stay with their "PVP for fun" guild instead of joining in for "PVP for PVE" guild. There is only ONE choice. No one else wants to put in the time or offer the stability to members to actually compete.

Blame GMs, admins, Nihilum or Obama. The PLAYERS have to want to do something about it.

[Mornin3.0]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember stating this MANY times. Nihilum is not into griefing, random gank squads and PVPing for the sake of PVP. We PVP over PVE.

And for that all of you should be glad. Because if we did decide to start griefing, random gank squads and PVPing for the sake of PVP...how many people do you think would really like to play here then?

Not many.

Or success is a result of people realizing once they get to 50 that the time invested is going to be for nothing if they stay with their "PVP for fun" guild instead of joining in for "PVP for PVE" guild. There is only ONE choice. No one else wants to put in the time or offer the stability to members to actually compete.

Blame GMs, admins, Nihilum or Obama. The PLAYERS have to want to do something about it.

you really are a fucking retard.. you nor your guild has any idea as to why this shit box has turned into a shit box.....

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Mornin3.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you really are a fucking retard.. you nor your guild has any idea as to why this shit box has turned into a shit box.....

You mad.

[Dullah]

it mostly consists of Samwise down, ezpk down, kilbur down, tombom down, vizcount down, nips down, znif down and so forth.

[BigTB]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it mostly consists of Samwise down, ezpk down, kilbur down, tombom down, vizcount down, nips down, znif down and so forth.

yet to see a tombom down post,


I think ive dropped like 3 times since comming back, and 2/3 were to sever icecommets
at sub 45.... sa'll good man like ive said, glad you are all tryin =D


ps that list just comes off as "People i am jelly/scared of"

[heartbrand]

lollll

[Mornin3.0]

Originally Posted by fiegi 2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I miss us mornin

we need to have a sit down with our pal HB

mann I tried... HB addiction beyond recognition atm...