Who smokes weed?

[President]

Originally Posted by Dork [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Coca is a plant
Foxglove is a plant
Sugar is a plant
Mushrooms are like plants, kind of
Alcohol can be made from plats

I'm forgetting some. My point is, just because it's a plant, doesn't mean it's "safe". I'd suggest a better debate point, if you want to bring people to your side. And no, I don't smoke anymore. I'm already dumb enough, when high I go into the barely animated mannequin phase.

Someone doesn't simply chop up and snort a coca leaf. It goes through chemical process to make it much more potent than the plant itself, weed on the other hand, does not. It's the same thing for valerium root & Valium. Valerium root can be bought in stores and is a slight sedative to help sleep, where as Valium has gone through a process to make it much much stronger and that is why it's considered a drug.

[Maurk]

all day everyday even right now

[ShadowWulf]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone doesn't simply chop up and snort a coca leaf.

Actually, yes, you do. You chew coca leaves in their natural state and they are uin every way as addictive and active as other methods, if a little slower to react.

Many, many MANY natural things will kill you dead. Something being natural does not by default make it safe. However weed has gone through by this time hundreds of generations of cultivation and very selective breeding to increase it THC content, flavors, color and a host of other factors. I would argue that outside of soybeans, cotton and corn weed is quickly becoming one of those most man-modified plants around. And if it ever gets legalized anywhere, i hope you LOVE Montsano and modified plants, because that's all you'll be left with when someone patents the plant's chromosomes itself. Anybody who honestly believes THC is not a drug needs to get their head out of the ass end of the weed-propaganda movement, and pickup a text book and do some reading. Im not arguing thats its BAD for you in the same way cocaine is but it IS a drug, by action and definition.

I agree with Loke however, this is just a thread for people who define themselves by their drug use now, and not people who use drugs but are not defined by it.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone doesn't simply chop up and snort a coca leaf. It goes through chemical process to make it much more potent than the plant itself, weed on the other hand, does not. It's the same thing for valerium root & Valium. Valerium root can be bought in stores and is a slight sedative to help sleep, where as Valium has gone through a process to make it much much stronger and that is why it's considered a drug.

The pot you buy from your dealer isn't naturally occurring marijuana.

[President]

Originally Posted by ShadowWulf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, yes, you do. You chew coca leaves in their natural state and they are uin every way as addictive and active as other methods, if a little slower to react.

Wrong:

"Absorption of cocaine from the leaf is much less rapid and efficient than from the purified forms of cocaine, and it does not cause the euphoric and psychoactive effects associated with use of the drug."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca

Many, many MANY natural things will kill you dead. Something being natural does not by default make it safe. However weed has gone through by this time hundreds of generations of cultivation and very selective breeding to increase it THC content, flavors, color and a host of other factors. I would argue that outside of soybeans, cotton and corn weed is quickly becoming one of those most man-modified plants around. And if it ever gets legalized anywhere, i hope you LOVE Montsano and modified plants, because that's all you'll be left with when someone patents the plant's chromosomes itself. Anybody who honestly believes THC is not a drug needs to get their head out of the ass end of the weed-propaganda movement, and pickup a text book and do some reading. Im not arguing thats its BAD for you in the same way cocaine is but it IS a drug, by action and definition.

I agree with Loke however, this is just a thread for people who define themselves by their drug use now, and not people who use drugs but are not defined by it.

Its far less man modified than any other hard drug. Cocaine? Heroine? Meth?

Then you must also think that Caffeine, Tobacco, Alcohol, etc. are also drugs?

[President]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The pot you buy from your dealer isn't naturally occurring marijuana.

This may be true but lumping it in the same boat as cocaine, heroine, etc. is ludicrous.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then you must also think that Caffeine, Tobacco, Alcohol, etc. are also drugs?

Is anyone going to seriously argue that they are not? Pretty sure it's a commonly accepted fact that all of those things are drugs.

[President]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is anyone going to seriously argue that they are not? Pretty sure it's a commonly accepted fact that all of those things are drugs.

Yet everyone still treats marijuana like its the devil while these things are commonplace.

[Dork]

I never said "it was the devil". I never even said it was bad...[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[President]

Originally Posted by Dork [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said "it was the devil". I never even said it was bad...[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wasn't specifically talking about people in this thread. Just, in general.