remove staff from player interactions?

[Darwoth]

as an aside one could note that those for getting staff out of the affairs of the server are well known folks in game or on the boards, and those against are retards from the blue server, 20 post alt accounts and nihilum members.

predictable to say the least.

[Harrison]

Well known cheaters...yeah. Seriously, every single one.

[Envious]

Being right all the time gets so boring...

[Nirgon]

Worst thing that can happen to a game is a staff failing to enforce rules equally.

This server is in the toilet.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Worst thing that can happen to a game is a staff failing to enforce rules equally.

This server is in the toilet.

Boo hoo. God forbid you try to be reasonable with a GM instead of going full retard on the forums the second things don't go your way. It was the exact same way after you were disbanded for exploiting Naggy, you guys tried to play the victim when you were in the wrong in the first place. When you do something wrong and you're caught red handed, the correct response is contrition. Your response however was to bitch as much as possible about unequal treatment. And that is why no one will ever take you seriously - you could have probably solved all of your woes by politely speaking with a GM but instead you chose to do what Holo does best: whining publicly.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boo hoo. God forbid you try to be reasonable with a GM instead of going full retard on the forums the second things don't go your way. It was the exact same way after you were disbanded for exploiting Naggy, you guys tried to play the victim when you were in the wrong in the first place. When you do something wrong and you're caught red handed, the correct response is contrition. Your response however was to bitch as much as possible about unequal treatment. And that is why no one will ever take you seriously - you could have probably solved all of your woes by politely speaking with a GM but instead you chose to do what Holo does best: whining publicly.

Starting to think he is the only player with an IQ over 50 on red. Holocaust literally has downs. Exploit, caught, cry, forum spam tears, and blame the world. Never once man up for yourselves.

[SamwiseRed]

nah I had doubts about this server when holo was banned for using known nihilum strats. was totally confused and thought there was something else behind it. nope just full retard decisions being made by people without a clue.

[oldfish]

I played Rallos for 2 years (01-02), and ive never heard of anyone banned for the stuff Darwoth is talking about.

Hell i never even thought training was illegal back then because i had never heard of someone getting banned for it and to be in Oasis meant to be watching your back for spectres or sand giant trains, always.

Wether it is classic or not, i think it makes the game more interesting.

What would eve online be without all the scamming, etc...? Alot more boring.

On rallos i once got bind camped for 20mins outside unrest and the guy tells me "Ill stop but you have to port me to EC" i said sure! And ported him at 2am
in dreadlands with nobody around.

This is the kind of stuff that should be allowed here. Dont wanna get ported in the middle of nowhere? Make sure the guy you are getting a port from is trustable.

[SearyxTZ]

I'm too tired to go into fine detail on this. I would say no, though.

This is coming from someone who tried both approaches on VZTZ. I believe I was the only staff member there who actually tried hands-off with PvP rules (for a brief time).


The upside was that I didn't drive myself crazy trying to police every fucking stupid pvp encounter between the assholes in the two top guilds.

Because there were no rules, and it was up to the players to figure all that out and govern eachother.


The downside: as you would expect, griefing skyrocketed. Training replaced PvP. Entire guilds quit the server. Server population dropped.

I really don't think we want this here.

GM intervention may not always be perfect or objective, but I promise those of you who want nothing at all that you'll be begging for GMs to come babysit everyone again after you get trained into the ground anytime you try to go do anything.

[oldfish]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GM intervention may not always be perfect or objective, but I promise those of you who want nothing at all that you'll be begging for GMs to come babysit everyone again after you get trained into the ground anytime you try to go do anything.

But he said everything but train