Raid Petitions / GM CS

[Mcbard]

If you GMs need any player logs or screenshots/videos to help you figure out some of these things feel free to send me a message and I will provide you with what I can if I was around for it (january you're pretty out of luck! :P ).

Other than that, keep fighting the good fight, and thank you for donating your time!

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

quoting this for the lulz.

I'm just saying your log you posted doesn't prove FTE like you think it does, from what I understand:

1) Darkdeath is shown FD before his eye is killed by Inny.

2) Based on the mechanics quoted above, the mob cons indifferent if the eye dies while you are FD, therefore NOT aggro.

3) Your log is not able to show Darkdeath standing up before his eye dies to retain aggro.

As for who actually had FTE, I cannot tell from that log that you posted as verifiable proof.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just saying your log you posted doesn't prove FTE like you think it does, from what I understand:

1) Darkdeath is shown FD before his eye is killed by Inny.

2) Based on the mechanics quoted above, the mob cons indifferent if the eye dies while you are FD, therefore NOT aggro.

3) Your log is not able to show Darkdeath standing up before his eye dies to retain aggro.

As for who actually had FTE, I cannot tell from that log that you posted as verifiable proof.

lol

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol

Please, enlighten me. Instead of explaining where I am wrong, all you're doing is "lulz" this and "lol" that. School me, oh great one, on how your log shows FTE by Darkdeath in light of what I've posted. I've already claimed to not play a FD class or use stalker probes.

[Daliant17447]

Nothing will agro an eye while the player is FD.

[Wed Feb 15 16:26:57 2012] Innoruuk slashes Eye of Darkdeath for 400 points of damage.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:57 2012] Eye of Darkdeath has been slain by Innoruuk!

Those logs are proof that he did in fact stand up, after moving his eye to Innoruuk

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please, enlighten me. Instead of explaining where I am wrong, all you're doing is "lulz" this and "lol" that. School me, oh great one, on how your log shows FTE by Darkdeath in light of what I've posted. I've already claimed to not play a FD class or use stalker probes.

what fun is there in that. You have an entire guild (actually 2) that could explain this phenomenon to you.

Edit: Daliant, [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Daliant17447 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing will agro an eye while the player is FD.

[Wed Feb 15 16:26:57 2012] Innoruuk slashes Eye of Darkdeath for 400 points of damage.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:57 2012] Eye of Darkdeath has been slain by Innoruuk!

Those logs are proof that he did in fact stand up, after moving his eye to Innoruuk

Okay, fair enough... then the mechanic I posted from the monkly business site does not work in the same way here. It seemed to imply that you could get the eye killed while remaining FD.

[Bruman]

"Hey guys, lets continue to bicker and argue over old ass shit, just like we have every fucking day for the past year or more"

GG

[dozens12]

Wow this train got stopped right in its tracks. Maybe control your pet and it would cause less trouble for the queen amelinda ?

http://i.imgur.com/3t2zS.jpg

[Amelinda]

Originally Posted by john_savage1982 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everybody knows GMs are biased. Don't like it? Don't play. They don't care either way.

Actually we are all very unbiased. The only people who even look at raid petitions are Rogean and myself and neither he nor i care whcih pixels go where.

Ambrotos & Gratis are both excellent guides who do not handle raid level petitions but have been nothing but fair in answering all other petitions that i've seen.

SO to say that the staff is Biased is...I think....unfair.

Originally Posted by Bruman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Hey guys, lets continue to bicker and argue over old ass shit, just like we have every fucking day for the past year or more"

GG

This is true.

Not gonna address the most recent Inny in detail because i'll do that in the petition section and have already done it in detail with the IB folks who petitioned. Here is the top 5 for the encounter log:

http://pastebin.com/PCjauCe8

TMO had FTE with darkdeath's eye and darkdeath. Darkdeath was engaged for the entire fight (73 seconds).

Unfortunately I wasn't there so didn't see any shenanigans.

To the OP/ On to the MEAT of the post:

The simple fact of the matter is that there are really only 3 individuals who are empowered to make raid decisions. Nilbog, Rogean and myself.

I can definitely sympathize and understand your frustrations. However, do please realize that all 3 of us have real lives and stuff happens in those real lives.

People get sick. People have real life emergencies. I do understand that you get aggravated not hearing anything. But realize that it is rare for me to stand up and announce things publically.

I actually intended to do something about a few of the raid petitions a few weeks ago but have been dealing with being ill and then my father had emergency surgery. I see my logs and realize i miss tons and tons of tells because i leave my characters on pretty much non-stop.

I realize I could have been more communicative and I apologize for that. The best explanation that I can give you is that my plate and hands have been pretty full lately. Just when i think things have settled down and I can get to the raid petitions something else explodes in my face. (Which is not your fault or issue but it does affect you and for that I am sorry)

Let's place responsibility where it is due though:

ALL parties involved need to be more responsible about their own actions and need to behave more in the way they would like to be treated than "what will the rules let me get away with"

The intentional training bullshit needs to stop (Do I really need to name names? I can. and i'm sure we'd all have a big laugh) (KNOWING that you are a big ole trainer and being able to prove it are two different things. Unfortunately)

The poopsock race makes shit 10x more difficult than it has to be. I hope you realize that.
The intentional griefing of each other in all aspects is just ridiculous. can't tell you how many times i get petitions from all sides that aren't petitioning individuals. "TMO just took my pawbuster" "IB Is here ksing me in Droga" "VD is trying to steal my AC Spawn" "BDA is stealing my Fungus king camp" "Divinity is here boxing"

Whenever i see those petitions or get those sorts of tells I shake my head and just want to respond and be a smarty pants. "Really? so one person is boxing an entire guild?" "TMO is raiding paw buster now? IB raiding droga? VD having mass OOT raid!! Film at 11!!"

It's a vicious nasty cycle. People are blaming entire guilds for the douchey actions of a few people. Then they are turning around and perpetuating the douchebaggery by griefing and dicking over other, unrelated (except by guild tag) people at other points outside of raid situations. That then causes THOSE people to be angry at you and they retaliate. Then you have to 1 up them and it just keeps perpetuating itself. All very 3rd grade bully crap. AND ALL SIDES ARE BULLYING.

If people would grow up and let things go then there wouldn't be quite so much douchebaggery floating around the server :P

anyway. enough of my commentary. Do expect to see action taken in the coming days.

The days of thinking you can get by with shit are over.