Proposal to the TMO leadership

[M.Bison]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in the face of a bum deal.

Lol, the same "bum deal" your leadership insisted upon. Who is the dense one?

[quido]

Originally Posted by M.Bison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, the same "bum deal" your leadership insisted upon. Who is the dense one?

Minyin doesn't like what he's hearing. I can't blame him. Minyin, tell me: how badly do you personally want to go back to FFA Trakanon and possibly FFA VP? Try to gauge your relative interest against mine, then report your findings here.

This last agreement, if you don't know, was sort of hastily decided; no real specifics were hashed out. There's not even a tentative expiration on it. So if you dolts think that you can force us camp in the lair while you turkeys get off Scot free, lol you better think again. I'll beat VD on that race a few times just for the sheer fun of it and to prove a point, but just be honest with yourself for a minute here and think about how this one could pan out...

Maybe we should just all drop TMO and enlist in <The Medulla Oblongata> to contest "your" Trakanons! That makes it ok right?

I think it's kind of pathetic how badly you guys need each other at this point. Your efforts lack dignity.

So, to disclaim again - I do not speak for TMO. It is possible that I am the only person in the guild who feels this way! I am merely advising you(everybody) to think about the consequences of your actions =)

[Szeth]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So to disclaim again - I do not speak for TMO. It is possible that I am the only person in the guild who feels this way!

Before you were confident that you could get most if not all behind you. It's only been a few hours, why so unsure now?

[quido]

I always forget that my guild names get killed because of HTML =( In the third paragraph above I am suggesting the possibility of enlisting in a guild called "The Medulla Oblongata."

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Szeth you seem kind of dense to me.

You can say whatever you like about it; I don't really care. Not everyone employs my level of resolve, but enough people do that I doubt we'll have to camp the ledge without you for very long. Nobody likes it, but we're willing to do what is necessary to take that which we desire. However much we dislike it, Szeth, I'm pretty sure people on your end will dislike it more. Don't doubt how willing we are to throw it all in the crapper and go back to the mattresses, in the face of a bum deal, that is.

If you people know what's good for you, you won't be as dense as Szeth here.

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[Nizzarr]

text me please when IBs vp dragons spawns. I dont wanna miss that

[Xanthias]

Look at this from the TMO perspective a minute with the previous agreement... two guilds work together share loot on everything cept one dragon vs one guild... why should the two guilds be treated individually with one mob when they share all the rest?

Now I'm going to use logic here with a few Yes/No Questions

VD and IB work together and share loot on most raid encounters outside of VP - Yes

Can VD do these encounters on their own without assistance - Yes (see weekend when nothing was contested when VP opened)

Does VD consistently do these encounters solo when they are contested - No

It isn't a matter of TMO not thinking VD can do this stuff solo, hell we know you can, it is a matter that VD doesn't want to/desire to do it solo.

Trak solo with the spawn not being contested is COMPLETELY different than having to engage within a minute of it spawning. Anyone who says different is lying or trying to sell you something.

If VD wants to be a part of a rotation for Trak, they need to stand on their own with other raid encounters rather than fighting alongside IB.

Show you can do the fast engage and fight solo and earn your spot.

My 2cp.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Xanthias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look at this from the TMO perspective a minute with the previous agreement... two guilds work together share loot on everything cept one dragon vs one guild... why should the two guilds be treated individually with one mob when they share all the rest?

Now I'm going to use logic here with a few Yes/No Questions

VD and IB work together and share loot on most raid encounters outside of VP - Yes

Can VD do these encounters on their own without assistance - Yes (see weekend when nothing was contested when VP opened)

Does VD consistently do these encounters solo when they are contested - No

It isn't a matter of TMO not thinking VD can do this stuff solo, hell we know you can, it is a matter that VD doesn't want to/desire to do it solo.

Trak solo with the spawn not being contested is COMPLETELY different than having to engage within a minute of it spawning. Anyone who says different is lying or trying to sell you something.

If VD wants to be a part of a rotation for Trak, they need to stand on their own with other raid encounters rather than fighting alongside IB.

Show you can do the fast engage and fight solo and earn your spot.

My 2cp.

Your sensible post has no business being in RNF and IB will not understand it anyways.
However, any adult who doesn't spend their free time licking windows will probably understand our position now.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Xanthias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look at this from the TMO perspective a minute with the previous agreement... two guilds work together share loot on everything cept one dragon vs one guild... why should the two guilds be treated individually with one mob when they share all the rest?

Now I'm going to use logic here with a few Yes/No Questions

VD and IB work together and share loot on most raid encounters outside of VP - Yes

Can VD do these encounters on their own without assistance - Yes (see weekend when nothing was contested when VP opened)

Does VD consistently do these encounters solo when they are contested - No

It isn't a matter of TMO not thinking VD can do this stuff solo, hell we know you can, it is a matter that VD doesn't want to/desire to do it solo.

Trak solo with the spawn not being contested is COMPLETELY different than having to engage within a minute of it spawning. Anyone who says different is lying or trying to sell you something.

If VD wants to be a part of a rotation for Trak, they need to stand on their own with other raid encounters rather than fighting alongside IB.

Show you can do the fast engage and fight solo and earn your spot.

My 2cp.

So, pray tell Xanthais, why does TMO get to dictate what the standards are for earning a spot in the rotation?

Wanna split back into TMO and DA and all four guilds can rotate? Or is the fear that neither TMO and DA can take down Trak on their own? Now to me, THAT would be an interesting rotation.

[Xanthias]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, pray tell Xanthais, why does TMO get to dictate what the standards are for earning a spot in the rotation?

Wanna split back into TMO and DA and all four guilds can rotate? Or is the fear that neither TMO and DA can take down Trak on their own? Now to me, THAT would be an interesting rotation.

Two points:
1) During negotiations people make their demands/desires known and all parties come to some sort of compromise.

2) Are you saying that VD and IB are actually one guild?
Because last I checked DA and TMO weren't two separate guilds raiding together, but all under one tag after they merged...