Rules for spawned epic mobs

[Sizzle]

I will say this, EVERY SINGLE MAGE that I dealt with while completing the mage epic worked together and passed the camps accordingly to who was there and waiting. In fact, I even had help from mages outside of my own guild <Divinity> who helped me kill some of the more painful spawns and give me information on how to find/kill/engage said epic camps. Thank you to all the mages and good hearted players out there who still exist.

[Fazlazen]

What ninja looting occurence are we talking about here ?

[Fazlazen]

Seriously, what are you even talking about ?

[Zapatos]

Let's shy away from the rhetorical question a bit because we already know that for general mobs and npcs that are engaged: training, kill stealing and ninja looting are against the rules. I'll agree that mem blurring and charming should be added for clarification (although that already constitutes raid interference on bigger targets).

For triggered mobs in the kill x to spawn y category (see plane of sky), we have those rules plus a 20minute engage timer or 1 wipe for the raid who triggers.

The problem here seems to be from epic - quest encounters. After one player turns in an item that triggers an event/npc, how long does the player have before another group or raid can engage, if at all? This is different than a normal 'triggered' mob because, for epics, they will usually require hours, if not days, of work in order to get to the point of triggering their mob in the first place; a 20minute timer/1 attempt is by no means fair.

edit:
Off of the top of my head, some examples now would be the druid/ranger epic event in east karana, Ixiblat Fer, Ragefire, the doppleganger in WK.... and down the road would be the triggered versions of Venril Sathir, Faydedar, and Trakanon, to name a few.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Zapatos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a 20minute timer/1 attempt is by no means fair.

Right, on Ragefire it was just sorta agreed I guess yesterday, since two guilds had alot of raiders on hand. Would be a bad precident.

[Raavak]

Lotta people showing how little they understand what happened.

[Raavak]

What if multiple people are feverishly clicking away waiting to trade with a mob that may spawn, and when he does multiple characters may have conceivably done the turn-in to spawn the mob, which is now aggro on everyone. What if this happens when no GM's are around. Is there a way to determine whose it is?

[Rasah]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What if multiple people are feverishly clicking away waiting to trade with a mob that may spawn, and when he does multiple characters may have conceivably done the turn-in to spawn the mob, which is now aggro on everyone. What if this happens when no GM's are around. Is there a way to determine whose it is?

Yes. Work it out before it spawns. Having multiple people spam click a soon to be popping mob is just asking for trouble.

Roll for it. Or duel for it. Or have a druid/ranger determine which character was in the zone first using track. Pushing and shoving, then lawyering up is not the answer.

[Bruman]

Gee, I wonder why the industry moved toward instances!

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Bruman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gee, I wonder why the industry moved toward instances!

Yeah really, you hardly need GM's with that.