Reset classic server

[nalkin]

Powergamers have ruined it to some extent, but they aren't totally to blame. In our day and age a fresh version of EQ has a good life expectancy of about 6 months. Everyone knows all the secrets and all the ways to completely optimize performance such that the economy gets inflated so fast. New people aren't going to want to play on an insanely inflated server.

The other reason the game is ruined is because there is absolutely nothing to do end game. The raids are not challenging so raid content alone isn't enough to keep competitive interest high, plus you are working towards a pointless cyclic goal whose only objective is to gain better gear. Once you have better gear you try to obtain better gear, but once you have the best gear you ?

I don't think there is anything that can be done to maintain an EQ server because its impossible to recreate the lack of knowledge we had back in the day. Really the only thing we can do is keep recycling the server over and over every year or so imo. The grind is the game, building a character is the game. People who qq about losing what they have worked for are living in some dreamland where its possible to have a lasting persistent server. All mmos degrade at some point, and with how good we all are, this one degrades perty gd fast.

[Vondra]

Originally Posted by nalkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Powergamers have ruined it to some extent, but they aren't totally to blame. In our day and age a fresh version of EQ has a good life expectancy of about 6 months. Everyone knows all the secrets and all the ways to completely optimize performance such that the economy gets inflated so fast. New people aren't going to want to play on an insanely inflated server.

The other reason the game is ruined is because there is absolutely nothing to do end game. The raids are not challenging so raid content alone isn't enough to keep competitive interest high, plus you are working towards a pointless cyclic goal whose only objective is to gain better gear. Once you have better gear you try to obtain better gear, but once you have the best gear you ?

I don't think there is anything that can be done to maintain an EQ server because its impossible to recreate the lack of knowledge we had back in the day. Really the only thing we can do is keep recycling the server over and over every year or so imo. The grind is the game, building a character is the game. People who qq about losing what they have worked for are living in some dreamland where its possible to have a lasting persistent server. All mmos degrade at some point, and with how good we all are, this one degrades perty gd fast.

Good post. You covered better what I briefly touched on when I said it's a flaw in the design of the game itself.

Moreso than most games, the journey to max level in this game is where the fun is. It isn't the endgame. This game barely even has an endgame.

In fact unlike other games where you gear grind once you hit max level, the gear isn't even of much use to you. You can gear a toon exclusively from items in EC, even skip out on the expensive ones...have a raid full of people that do the same...and you'll be able to clear any content we have just fine.

That isn't to say some high end raid items aren't useful, naturally they are, but you don't really need any of it. If you're already clearing everything the game has to offer with ease, there isn't much incentive to keep clearing it other than to make your character equipment sheet look pretty.

But then, that's classic.

[Djanis]

Originally Posted by nalkin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Powergamers have ruined it to some extent, but they aren't totally to blame. In our day and age a fresh version of EQ has a good life expectancy of about 6 months. Everyone knows all the secrets and all the ways to completely optimize performance such that the economy gets inflated so fast. New people aren't going to want to play on an insanely inflated server.

The other reason the game is ruined is because there is absolutely nothing to do end game. The raids are not challenging so raid content alone isn't enough to keep competitive interest high, plus you are working towards a pointless cyclic goal whose only objective is to gain better gear. Once you have better gear you try to obtain better gear, but once you have the best gear you ?

I don't think there is anything that can be done to maintain an EQ server because its impossible to recreate the lack of knowledge we had back in the day. Really the only thing we can do is keep recycling the server over and over every year or so imo. The grind is the game, building a character is the game. People who qq about losing what they have worked for are living in some dreamland where its possible to have a lasting persistent server. All mmos degrade at some point, and with how good we all are, this one degrades perty gd fast.

Agree 100% with this post. There needs to be a set life cycle for the server, like 1 year. Then wipe and start over. At the end of every cycle, there should be a "Champions of the Realm" type scoreboard. Name it whatever you want, thats just an example. It can show major achievements during that cycle to create some healthy competition while the server is live. Store the scoreboard in a Hall of Fame section of the forums showing all previous scoreboards.

[shorttin]

would be nice to get an admins idea on this. being one of the new players i would like to not waste time currently leveling and have to start over in the near future.

[RallyTyme]

Originally Posted by shorttin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

would be nice to get an admins idea on this. being one of the new players i would like to not waste time currently leveling and have to start over in the near future.

/agree even if the odds are small

[Brad_mo123]

This is stupid. P99's goal is and always has been to make it to velious. The problems developed on this server will just develop again if it is reset and the problems will start right at the start of the reset with all the people griping and bitching that they got their manastone camp taken and such and such guild has bigger dicks then the other. When velious is out and most of the bugs are fixed the devs did say that they may look into some custom content like cherry picking parts of expansions that were good or that they might make a new server and by then im sure most of the old population (the problem makers) will be done with p99 and mostly new people will populate the newly opened server. At the moment it is just too soon and the same shit will happen and sooner in the timeline.

Also I wanted to add that I myself and others have noticed the decline in developing. No hard feelings to the devs or anything, not trying to put Nilbog and other devs down im just speaking honostly that it's obvious that the thrill of developing this server is much less then it use to be so I kind of doubt anything will happen after velious and eventually this project will die, hopefully someone else will start up a new classic server with new dev's and etc if that happens.

[Kabilos]

I got into the EpicEMU beta of SoV, Lets see the good times roll !! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[DevGrousis]

Originally Posted by Kabilos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I got into the EpicEMU beta of SoV, Lets see the good times roll !! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what is that?


There isn't even an argument here. The community wants it, logic says its worth a try. After all, it couldn't kill the server more than the PvP has already done :*(

[Djanis]

wipe it, someone create a poll

[webrunner5]

Why?? The top 50 people will be level 50 again with good gear in 2 weeks. Same old crap in the EC tunnel. Manastone for sale for a zillion plat in 3 weeks.

It is the same way on the Red server. Lovely was level 50 as a Wizzy in 2 weeks with people trying to kill him. Like it has been said there are people on these servers that know every trick in the book. And if you get in a great group and Poopsock you can be level 20 in a day.

I have already become bored as hell with both servers. I think in the long run there will be 75 people on each server no matter what you do. You can only do the same old crap over and over for so long.