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Old 11-03-2011, 10:30 AM
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Yes, Null is alright as a person, but terrible at game balance.
I think what you mean is null refuses to make it exactly like live, but live was never closed to balance.
And truth be told there is no solution to balance, because factors shift as players level and gear up. Casters have a huge advantage early on when no one has resists. If you try to balance that out, then as people gear up casters get their assess handed to them becsude nothing without huge resist modifiers lands.
And if anyone is going to bitch about wanting true "classic" only, then let's have spells do full damage, and fear and charm work on players, which seems pretty stupid to me.
I doubt there is a player here who really wants everything as it originally came out.
Just because the person who is actually willing to put the time into making a server work doesnt agree with your version of classic, doesn't mean he sucks at what he does.
And if that really is what you think of all the work null is putting in, then bite your tongue in fucking gratitude and make polite suggestions, and remember he is making the server happen in any form. Or alternatively go somewhere else and find a dev who is willing to make a server in your image.
Either way, back the fuck off null.
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Old 11-03-2011, 10:36 AM
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Cant be done but it would be neat to see 100% exact copy of eq pvp from release with all the bugs and exploits and broken mechanics. I used to nuke down guards in Highkeep while standing in a corner and the guards would just stand there
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Old 11-03-2011, 10:39 AM
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Cant be done but it would be neat to see 100% exact copy of eq pvp from release with all the bugs and exploits and broken mechanics. I used to nuke down guards in Highkeep while standing in a corner and the guards would just stand there
or nuke down nobles + bards + isabella hohoho
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Old 11-03-2011, 01:15 PM
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Vztz will own this server when its all said and done. I've ran into so many noobs on beta who can't joust for shit, doesn't pell debuffs, etc. I'm looking forward to see how hard all u mq cryers get owned when it goes live. When vztz is on top what will u blame then?
I'm looking forward to people screaming hacks against tactics like strafe run/jump, fighting unbuffed etc.
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Old 11-03-2011, 01:46 PM
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I think what you mean is null refuses to make it exactly like live, but live was never closed to balance.
And truth be told there is no solution to balance, because factors shift as players level and gear up. Casters have a huge advantage early on when no one has resists. If you try to balance that out, then as people gear up casters get their assess handed to them becsude nothing without huge resist modifiers lands.
And if anyone is going to bitch about wanting true "classic" only, then let's have spells do full damage, and fear and charm work on players, which seems pretty stupid to me.
I doubt there is a player here who really wants everything as it originally came out.
Just because the person who is actually willing to put the time into making a server work doesnt agree with your version of classic, doesn't mean he sucks at what he does.
And if that really is what you think of all the work null is putting in, then bite your tongue in fucking gratitude and make polite suggestions, and remember he is making the server happen in any form. Or alternatively go somewhere else and find a dev who is willing to make a server in your image.
Either way, back the fuck off null.
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Old 11-03-2011, 01:49 PM
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Yeah, that way all the old TZVZ people can cheat to get ahead of everyone..? For fucks sake people were getting banned for cheating on a BETA server. With great nerdrage comes great responsibility. Being someone who played TZVZ to max lvl, I dont buy all the coy forum all-star bullshit. Same people will cheat, same drama will ensue. Lets just hope that the playerbase isnt so poor this time around that the GMs dont give up on the server and that the outside playerbase can enjoy playing. Because honestly? TZVZ was like an EQ High School Reunion and the only people who showed up were the kids who never got to be cool back in the day so they took a dump in the punch bowl.
This. I also played vztz to 50 on two different boxes and the community/moderating was fucking horrible both times. If p99 wants to be successful it needs to be the counterpoint to vz/tz. EQ pvp with classic-esq resists, slow exp, actual bands for cheaters and no corrupt GMs/guilds who pay off the server.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:37 PM
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i played box 1.0 in kunark era, and played box 2.0 for the whole thing.... alot of players from vztz hacked, i know this for a fact since I was guilded in holocaust, heresy and wbs at different times. I know who hacked, and to what extent people hacked, but believe me a ton of players did....

I would say about 80% of the playerbase on vztz were hacking in one form or another.
Do you think that was true back in 1.0 box? or just later on with 2.0 when void took over? (it was void wasnt it? god my memory sucks, i was drunk a lot)
My impression from 1.0 was there were a few cheaters, but it really was a minority group, and most of the cheating was in the form of zone crashing and duping gear, not mq.
but maybe that was just me being naive.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:42 PM
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I never hacked on VZTZ and I killed everyone on that box who was worth killing, so who fucking cares. There's no godmode cheat via MQ. Worst case scenario some clown instacamped on me or someone used the hacky-track to come find me (making my life easier)



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Old 11-03-2011, 07:27 PM
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says the guy who took over the box and lead it during the most blatant hackstorm of its existence then threw his hands up and shut it down as if anyone cared
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Old 11-03-2011, 07:43 PM
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I never hacked on VZTZ and I killed everyone on that box who was worth killing, so who fucking cares. There's no godmode cheat via MQ. Worst case scenario some clown instacamped on me or someone used the hacky-track to come find me (making my life easier)



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so we should allow MQ then? dumb post.
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