How EQ PvP really was - No bullshit guide - Page 5

tmoneynegro · #1 10-09-2011, 10:03 PM

double post

tmoneynegro · #2 10-09-2011, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lindz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are now only talking about a pvp game where people are in raid gear.

Well I'm not some random noob player that plans to PvP with 25 magic resist, what point of view were you expecting for this post? I was in the best geared guild on SZ during the era that this P99 server represents (pre-luclin).

The differing opinions occur due to people with crappy gear fighting other crappy geared players.

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Originally Posted by lindz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, get your story straight - if you are talking about classic era pvp stop including fungi tunics, epics, tstaffs and iksars.

Nothing in the original post says "0 expansions PvP", it talks about classic + kunark. There's no reason not to talk about it considering it's already out on P99 blue and the resist system is exactly the same as previous expansion.

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Originally Posted by lindz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The devs are not going to balance the server around your opinion of bard vs melee.

There's no opinion in my post, it's how EQ live PvP was. The only opinion I stated is that they should use Sullon Zek 50% debuff bonus with normal EQ resists.

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Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I suppose that may be the case. But you were writing a guide, were you not? You never specified that the guide was written strictly for people playing trolls/iksar, with fungi tunics and above average resists. Maybe you should include that in the OP.

Even if you were playing a human with no fungi tunic while standing in the middle of west karana, they still wouldn't be able to kill you before you ran to the zone line if you had over 100FR/100CR o_O

This is why I say the server should utilize the Sullon Zek 50% debuff bonus if the server uses normal EQ resists so classes like this can team up with somebody that can cast malo or whatever which combined with their occlusion, would be pretty powerful.

Normal EQ resists + 50% debuff bonus is about as balanced as you can get because you only get free kills if you actually debuff someone to hell first.

Hailto · #3 10-09-2011, 09:26 PM

Wait, so you're telling me rangers can actually be decent in classic eq pvp? Ive always wanted to play a Ranger on EQ but ive never felt i could justify it. Can someone confirm this?

Softcore PK · #4 10-09-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, so you're telling me rangers can actually be decent in classic eq pvp? Ive always wanted to play a Ranger on EQ but ive never felt i could justify it. Can someone confirm this?

Why would you need to justify it? If you enjoy playing the class, play it. You'll certainly not lose every battle, and at the start when people don't really have mr gear you'll be awesome with snare. No class is so bad for pvp that they are completely worthless.

Hailto · #5 10-09-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would you need to justify it? If you enjoy playing the class, play it. You'll certainly not lose every battle, and at the start when people don't really have mr gear you'll be awesome with snare. No class is so bad for pvp that they are completely worthless.

I realize you should play what you enjoy, but if rangers were so gimped that i would just be getting rolled the whole time it would take a lot of the fun out of it. If they are actually semi decent pvp wise i might give it a shot.

Softcore PK · #6 10-09-2011, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hailto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I realize you should play what you enjoy, but if rangers were so gimped that i would just be getting rolled the whole time it would take a lot of the fun out of it. If they are actually semi decent pvp wise i might give it a shot.

If I were you, I'd play a ranger. Don't listen to these min/maxers. There are some very decent ranger 2 handers (particularly when kunark and velious are out) that will be great for jousting. You get track, which you can filter, that's a huge plus. Your spells are not as useless as people would have you believe. Being one of three classes that can sow is a huge plus alone. And you get crits with your bow. You're not really going to be getting any PKs just for your bow skills, but it is certainly an advantage when you can throw in some extra damage this way. HP are not gonna be THAT terrible, and you can buff your own resists and channel pumice (plus get dispell spell).

Rangers are fine.

Cast · #7 10-09-2011, 10:24 PM

Yes rangers blow in classic, only worse is rogue.

Again, this thread sucks. Some douchebag from sz talking about shit none of you will worry about/experience for over a year. He's never PVP'd in classic and he will be stomped into the ground like the useless troglodyte he is.

tmoneynegro · #8 10-09-2011, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes rangers blow in classic, only worse is rogue.

Obviously a terrible player saying things that are such far from the truth. Rangers are a top tier PvP class in classic just like every other expansion unless you're a horrible player.

I remember when Abacab said something similar to me about rangers before then bothered me for like an hour till I logged in to duel him and look what happened.

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Originally Posted by Cast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, this thread sucks. Some douchebag from sz talking about shit none of you will worry about/experience for over a year. He's never PVP'd in classic and he will be stomped into the ground like the useless troglodyte he is.

Yes, you're a genius dude, I've never even heard of you before and you've never fought me in game but type 10 psychopath posts in a row highlighting your mental instability trying to talk shit to me. There are 0 of you trash TZVZ players that concern me.

Why don't you type out your SZ name and guild so we can all have a good laugh.

Lazortag · #9 10-09-2011, 11:21 PM

Wehrmacht, considering you started by saying that bard dots didn't have a resist debuff component (which they always have) and that fungi tunic could out-regen a bard dot (which isn't true), it's pretty much impossible to trust your account of how classic was. Especially when your version of classic has occlusion of sound, t-staffs and fungi tunics in it.

Hailto · #10 10-09-2011, 10:10 PM

One of you bastards answer my question please.