Stand Up Guyz

[JayDee]

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[deneauth]

Originally Posted by JayDee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[mitic]

TR is definately ruining everyones immersion by camping dragons 24 7 and killing bosses within 10 mins via batphone

lets instance those zones, NOW!

[Bazia]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TR is definately ruining everyones immersion by camping dragons 24 7 and killing bosses within 10 mins via batphone

lets instance those zones, NOW!

WTF are you talking about I don't care about that fucking guild or raiding.

I think its retarded that this INDIVIDUAL is cheating his ass off, there is proof and no one gives a shit.

If you're not going to discuss the topic then go post in one of the billion "Raiding flame threads"

[mitic]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WTF are you talking about I don't care about that fucking guild or raiding.

I think its retarded that this INDIVIDUAL is cheating his ass off, there is proof and no one gives a shit.

If you're not going to discuss the topic then go post in one of the billion "Raiding flame threads"

just read all the other posts in this thread an you will understand (or not)

[Bazia]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just read all the other posts in this thread an you will understand (or not)

Ok so I'm going to assume he's in your guild, doesn't anyone care that he obviously cheats?

Maybe that's why people are flaming your guild.

Lack of shits given about the obvious cheater.

[gnOme]

I don't understand what the staff is supposed to do. He was temp banned and de-leveled just like everyone else that was caught cheating recently. (the reason for leniency has already been addressed by the staff so I won't do it here)

As far as the accusations of his 2box'n I just don't see the "proof" your screaming of. Someone said he was on another char, while his char was logged in? So what? I'm gonna throw a situation into the mix that will explain a possible scenario that occurred....

Perun was caught cheating and de-leveled to 54, he decided a AE group was the best way to get this xp back. He has access to a friends character that will help but is the only one with access to it, he has another friend to log on his account while he plays the other character to help himself lvl.....

There are many variations of this situation that could be valid in this situation. The fact is the only way to know for sure if someone is 2 box'n is to have a GM/guide in game check to find out.....

Accuse the staff of whatever you like, but to pretend there is some kind of proof of 2 box'n in the OPs pic is a stretch.....questionable yes. Proof no..... It makes it sooo much harder on the staff when you guys blow stuff out of proportion or see some sort of "proof" that just isn't there....

If you see something questionable in game and feel something wrong is being done, Petition it. Regardless of what you might think the fact is that Rogean and Nilbog bust there ass to make sure things run as fairly as they can for EVERYONE who plays. The GM staff currently active are some of the most fair and attentive one's the server has ever had.....take advantage of that. Don't come on here with half truths and perceptions of what might have happened....Read into it if you must, but don't turn it into a witch hunt screaming of proof that doesn't exist.

[Bazia]

Originally Posted by gnOme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand what the staff is supposed to do. He was temp banned and de-leveled just like everyone else that was caught cheating recently. (the reason for leniency has already been addressed by the staff so I won't do it here)

As far as the accusations of his 2box'n I just don't see the "proof" your screaming of. Someone said he was on another char, while his char was logged in? So what? I'm gonna throw a situation into the mix that will explain a possible scenario that occurred....

Perun was caught cheating and de-leveled to 54, he decided a AE group was the best way to get this xp back. He has access to a friends character that will help but is the only one with access to it, he has another friend to log on his account while he plays the other character to help himself lvl.....

There are many variations of this situation that could be valid in this situation. The fact is the only way to know for sure if someone is 2 box'n is to have a GM/guide in game check to find out.....

Accuse the staff of whatever you like, but to pretend there is some kind of proof of 2 box'n in the OPs pic is a stretch.....questionable yes. Proof no..... It makes it sooo much harder on the staff when you guys blow stuff out of proportion or see some sort of "proof" that just isn't there....

If you see something questionable in game and feel something wrong is being done, Petition it. Regardless of what you might think the fact is that Rogean and Nilbog bust there ass to make sure things run as fairly as they can for EVERYONE who plays. The GM staff currently active are some of the most fair and attentive one's the server has ever had.....take advantage of that. Don't come on here with half truths and perceptions of what might have happened....Read into it if you must, but don't turn it into a witch hunt screaming of proof that doesn't exist.

Valid points, I guess it could've been manipulated. I just think there is still a bad taste in peoples mouth about the banning situation (like me).

Guess I just need to get over it, and enjoy classic EQ. It was just the lack of cheating was about 95% of the appeal of this server to me, cosidering this game is basically destroyed everywhere else by rampant cheating.

[G13]

Originally Posted by gnOme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand what the staff is supposed to do. He was temp banned and de-leveled just like everyone else that was caught cheating recently. (the reason for leniency has already been addressed by the staff so I won't do it here)

The staff was supposed to ban the accounts for hacking/using 3rd party programs. You're also forgetting the fact he was using these cheats as TR's raid leader and a integral part of their officer crew.

As far as the accusations of his 2box'n I just don't see the "proof" your screaming of. Someone said he was on another char, while his char was logged in? So what? I'm gonna throw a situation into the mix that will explain a possible scenario that occurred....

You're characterization of people's opinion on his 2 boxing is hyperbole.

Perun was caught cheating and de-leveled to 54, he decided a AE group was the best way to get this xp back. He has access to a friends character that will help but is the only one with access to it, he has another friend to log on his account while he plays the other character to help himself lvl.....

Which makes his punishment meaningless in the long term.

There are many variations of this situation that could be valid in this situation. The fact is the only way to know for sure if someone is 2 box'n is to have a GM/guide in game check to find out.....

I've stated previously that he'd be getting plvled by IB/TR as soon as his suspension was up and that's exactly what is happening. You're telling me a GM couldn't drop by and keep tabs on a known cheater after he had just been dlvled and has access to so many different high level characters? Incompetence.

Accuse the staff of whatever you like, but to pretend there is some kind of proof of 2 box'n in the OPs pic is a stretch.....questionable yes. Proof no..... It makes it sooo much harder on the staff when you guys blow stuff out of proportion or see some sort of "proof" that just isn't there....

Why wasn't a GM keeping tabs on him and checking IP logs. That SS is a huge red flag.

If you see something questionable in game and feel something wrong is being done, Petition it. Regardless of what you might think the fact is that Rogean and Nilbog bust there ass to make sure things run as fairly as they can for EVERYONE who plays. The GM staff currently active are some of the most fair and attentive one's the server has ever had.....take advantage of that. Don't come on here with half truths and perceptions of what might have happened....Read into it if you must, but don't turn it into a witch hunt screaming of proof that doesn't exist.

Nilbog and Rogean have zero credibility after the way they handled these suspensions IMO. They totally sold out the population that has always followed the rules and respected their server, to cater to the needs of an elite few who hold the rest of the server in disdain.

[Bazia]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The staff was supposed to ban the accounts for hacking/using 3rd party programs. You're also forgetting the fact he was using these cheats as TR's raid leader and a integral part of their officer crew.



You're characterization of people's opinion on his 2 boxing is hyperbole.



Which makes his punishment meaningless in the long term.



I've stated previously that he'd be getting plvled by IB/TR as soon as his suspension was up and that's exactly what is happening. You're telling me a GM couldn't drop by and keep tabs on a known cheater after he had just been dlvled and has access to so many different high level characters? Incompetence.



Why wasn't a GM keeping tabs on him and checking IP logs. That SS is a huge red flag.



Nilbog and Rogean have zero credibility after the way they handled these suspensions IMO. They totally sold out the population that has always followed the rules and respected their server, to cater to the needs of an elite few who hold the rest of the server in disdain.

I think this opinion is a little extreme, I believe they did what they thought was best. Even if I don't agree with it, I think they are doing what they believe to be the best for the server.

I think if players held each other accountable and shunned cheateres, we wouldn't have the issues we have. (That's what I meant by people not giving a shit in my earlier posts)