Punish Harder. Delete items.

[Yohindo]

Their Punishment was not harsh enough.

[Runningfish]

The people who are running around EC shouting about how they have stacks of fungi's for when they get back are idiots. The same as the people on here calling everyone that doesn't want to burn the witch a cheating scumbag. Most of those people in EC are lying if not all of them.

I'm guessing that they didn't delete all gear because if they had the server would have taken just as big of a population hit as it would have if they had banned the accounts. This current punishment may not seem harsh at first glance and most people are focusing on the money lost but IMO the experience lost is a much larger punishment. People are asking for a title or a list but the level loss in itself will be enough for any active member of a guild to be spotted and weeded out. If the offenders care at all about their guilds this should be a pretty bad punishment.

Hacking has a negative impact on the server but our population is what keeps the classic feel and IMO it's what needs to be preserved at all costs. I'd be willing to put money down that at least 80% of the people who were suspended stop using MQ or Myseq on this server. Since this new detection seems pretty darn good that other 20 or so % that don't stop will be quickly banned. Personally I think this was the best approach possible.

[polum6666]

Originally Posted by Runningfish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The people who are running around EC shouting about how they have stacks of fungi's for when they get back are idiots. The same as the people on here calling everyone that doesn't want to burn the witch a cheating scumbag. Most of those people in EC are lying if not all of them.

I'm guessing that they didn't delete all gear because if they had the server would have taken just as big of a population hit as it would have if they had banned the accounts. This current punishment may not seem harsh at first glance and most people are focusing on the money lost but IMO the experience lost is a much larger punishment. People are asking for a title or a list but the level loss in itself will be enough for any active member of a guild to be spotted and weeded out. If the offenders care at all about their guilds this should be a pretty bad punishment.

Hacking has a negative impact on the server but our population is what keeps the classic feel and IMO it's what needs to be preserved at all costs. I'd be willing to put money down that at least 80% of the people who were suspended stop using MQ or Myseq on this server. Since this new detection seems pretty darn good that other 20 or so % that don't stop will be quickly banned. Personally I think this was the best approach possible.

fucken bullshit delete their fucken toons

[Motec]

lol at jealous kids without fungi's...go farm king baddies.

[Jamuraan]

Here's an idea: Don't buy their Fungis when they come back. One person with 50 fungis can't wear all of them at once. Buy from people who are known to be non-hackers, reputable and trustworthy. Black-balling these cheaters is just as effective as wiping their accounts.

Items are worthless if they can't sell them or trade them.

[Demetrium]

Originally Posted by Jamuraan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's an idea: Don't buy their Fungis when they come back. One person with 50 fungis can't wear all of them at once. Buy from people who are known to be non-hackers, reputable and trustworthy. Black-balling these cheaters is just as effective as wiping their accounts.

Items are worthless if they can't sell them or trade them.

This isn't feasible. People sell items on alts or could just as easily have a friend auction it. Furthermore, a full list of cheaters was never published (unfortunately).

[Felwithemagi]

Agree with Maze513, or at least a big red 'C' in their name. Like The Scarlet Letter.

[mala]

It is a legitimate question. Perhaps because the cheating wasn't as game breaking as you want to believe and the plat being removed wasn't due to gaining it "illegally", but simply part of the punishment for getting caught?

ANY amount of cheating on our server is "gamebreaking". Knowing that these people are using tools to help them make this game easier, while everyone else actually plays the game, is a slap in the face to everyone in the community. People claiming that "oh i wasnt hurting anyone else" are simply lieing to themselves, you hurt EVERYONE when you break the rules here.

And furthermore, any defense you have against cheaters using "non-gamebreaking" tools, is utterly retarded. You think that having a map that shows you where every mob in the zone is up, and paths, isnt an advantage?

Im for deleting ALL of these peoples gear, they didnt aquire their gear legitimately, and shouldnt be able to keep it.

And lastly. Im sure 90% of these people caught cheating were waiting for progression and more content(just as we all are), which has now digressed even further due to the fact they are trying to get ahead of the curve, and GM's are having to police that. This also effects everyone, so simply saying "oo i dont cheat what do i care" is irresponsible at best.

[Extunarian]

I was surprised the devs didn't strip droppables along with coin, but they probably thought about it a lot more than I have, or care to.

Someone with an RBG in the bank is gonna come back from their suspension and make more plat selling that item than I will make before Velious. It does seem unfair to the guy who happened to sell his RBG on Friday.

[Prahadigm24]

I've got to agree with OP. We have to assume that those cheaters gained an advantage of much more than the (average) 8,000 plat which have been removed from the game. Those 8,000 plat only correspond to 1 or 2 rare items, and I don't want to know how many of the cheaters' items have been collected with the help of ShowEQ. After their suspension they will still wear many "cheated" items.


I understand that the devs don't want to drive away all those 365 players, because the server needs a healthy population. That is why a permanent ban or character deletion would have been too much. Nevertheless, they should not be allowed to keep (all of their) items.

You should have stripped them of all their items and equipped them with a full set of cloth armor and a rusty short sword / dagger. This would give them a "clean", new start.