Discussion: Zone Plugging - Page 5

Bardalicious · #41 08-25-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Halister [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see it much as an exploit. The pve game is strongly built around strictly divided zones, I see nothing wrong in using the same mindset for pvp is all.

I also am not alltogether that much for fixing things that really aren't broken. I always played this game with people plugging now and then, I still like this game. I'm looking for an original server with good community and good antihacks. If Rogean and co can get that up and running all of these game-mechanical issues will sort themselves out. A lot of the charm with eq, the loot and scoot rules and all of these "easily abused exploits" were controlled by the community, not mechanics or gm's. It was a part of the charm of the game. It's what's been lacking on our other pvp servers.

I mean seriously, there are a lot of things like this that could be adjusted for different reasons. If we are to balance things like this for pvp, why not throw in a hard coded zonetime that evens out that? Just like it seems illogical that people should be able to poof zoning it seems illogical that it would take one person 15 seconds to travel that magical foot between sola and lavastorm while it takes the other a minute.

Disconnecting intentionally from the game client during a zoning session is an outright exploit, if you are too stubborn to admit it, then I have no reason to argue with you. The system is obviously broken if it is being used to undesired effects. Just as you cannot instantly camp while you are engaged in PVP combat, neither should you be able to instantly disappear from the world while you are zoning.

What it comes down to, is people are afraid of the accountability they will face. If you want to PVP, you had better damn well be prepared to own up to the fight if you are losing. Unlike the past where you could simply hoof it to the zone and face no consequences when you plug. It is a security blanket that was never meant to be there. Mad props to Rogean and Nilbog for wanting to take that away.

Bardalicious · #42 08-25-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSmedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Makes pvp more fun when you know, you're never safe, not even by zone lines.

Exactly.

dusk883 · #43 08-25-2011, 02:04 PM

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Since there won't be any big consequences from dieing in pvp i would like a system for when people plug while zoning. It's gonna be 5% that actually crash while zonging and are victims of this, however the other 95% gonna get what they deserve, pluggin scum!

Makes pvp more fun when you know, you're never safe, not even by zone lines.

This is a great point IMO... if there's exp loss, I bet the number of potential zone plugs goes thru the roof if there's no exp loss for doing so. I also believe there will be tons of plugging without zoning if it means you become an NPC when LD and unlootable, etc.

SearyxTZ · #44 08-25-2011, 02:11 PM

This should really be one of those things that there is unanimous agreement on. I'm honestly kind of impressed that someone took a stab at arguing a case for zoneplugging lol.

pasi · #45 08-25-2011, 02:14 PM

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This should really be one of those things that there is unanimous agreement on. I'm honestly kind of impressed that someone took a stab at arguing a case for zoneplugging lol.

My feelings as well.

Halister · #46 08-25-2011, 02:23 PM

I'm pretty much posting the same thing on all these different issues. I don't think they are problems big enough that they would need have development time put in. Nothing much in eq pvp really did aggrevate me. To me it really isn't a problem and therefore i don't care much if it's fixed or not.

I dont see either of the alternatives as more or less hardcore, or whatever it is that we are discussing. I'll play the game and be just as happy wether plugging is in or not. I kind of feel if these are the issues being worked on we should already be playing, you know?

juicedsixfo · #47 08-25-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm honestly kind of impressed that someone took a stab at arguing a case for zoneplugging lol.

Well when said person is a confirmed plugger you gotta try and at least... well...

lol seriously

Xantille · #48 08-25-2011, 02:31 PM

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Pumice wasnt a game changer until well after Kunark IMO... it was pricey and if I remember right it had a long cast time for some time on Live. Yeah, when everyone eventually had money to spend and the time when Pumice was instant, it was an issue. I would log in and spend an hour to go fund the 50 effing stones I would need for the week. I think Pumice has to be addressed, it just wasn't implemented very well. Often times though, I know many people didn't take the time to junk buff and pumice would often be a bigger detriment than help.. wiping off their cleric buff before they get to my Clinging Darkness? That's a win for me. If they were prepared? Yeah, it was a pain.

WAT

YendorLootmonkey · #49 08-25-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Halister [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty much posting the same thing on all these different issues. I don't think they are problems big enough that they would need have development time put in. Nothing much in eq pvp really did aggrevate me. To me it really isn't a problem and therefore i don't care much if it's fixed or not.

I dont see either of the alternatives as more or less hardcore, or whatever it is that we are discussing. I'll play the game and be just as happy wether plugging is in or not. I kind of feel if these are the issues being worked on we should already be playing, you know?

Do you want a server with a healthy population or not? I would think that would be the primary goal vs. "omg start it up already!!1!" Let them take the time to do it right so you guys have a more fun experience.

dusk883 · #50 08-25-2011, 02:43 PM

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WAT

Yeah, I started re-thinking that, too [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's a fact though: Woohoo Wawazzat laughed at anyone who had time to use Pumice (when it had a casting time). Of course, necro laughs at everyone I suppose.

Pumice has to be looked at, I do remember being effing MISERABLE with all the pumice I had to carry around though when it was an instant.