How far are we from AI recreating EQ99?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just curious.

Why do you resort to like this "im smarter than you, your argument comes form a lack of knowledge" approach?

Because in life some things require knowledge and effort to understand?

Look, you are claiming the only thing stopping AI from writing EQ is power. That's like claiming disease is caused by spirits not viruses.

I just spent half a day (was at jury duty the other half) writing software with Claude's latest model, on a $100+/month plan. I use this technology as part of my job: I know how it works like a carpenter knows a hammer.

I'm telling you: more power (alone) will not get AI to make EQ. If that's not enough to even make you curious (go ask an AI!), nothing I say will change your mind.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look, you are claiming the only thing stopping AI from writing EQ is power.

No, that is what you are arguing with me about.

I am arguing that the trillions invested in Ai indicates that the Ai has not plateaued and right now and i know for a fact it is severely limited by power costs and the Ai tools that we're using are heavily capped so the examples of mistakes and stuff most people experience are because they are using a very limited version of their Ais.

The OP question is "how far are we from making a game like EQ in AI" like the examples.

Right now, right now someone could do that.

Someone already did with unity, without AI.

So with AI, right now. Someone can make an everquest game with AI.

We just need someone to want to do it!

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, that is what you are arguing with me about.

I am arguing that the trillions invested in Ai indicates that the Ai has not plateaued and right now and i know for a fact it is severely limited by power costs and the Ai tools that we're using are heavily capped so the examples of mistakes and stuff most people experience are because they are using a very limited version of their Ais.

The OP question is "how far are we from making a game like EQ in AI" like the examples.

Right now, right now someone could do that.

Someone already did with unity, without AI.

So with AI, right now. Someone can make an everquest game with AI.

We just need someone to want to do it!

Why?

Also, no, someone didn't already do it in unity, that's not very real. It looks like they just spat some zone files into something and called it a day, it's single player, the site doesn't appear to exist anymore, inevitably they ran into the thing that most people run into when trying to make something: it's hard.

It's also a bizarre take to be like "we just need to make power cheaper!" oh word? Is that all? Ok cool gl bro.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The OP question is "how far are we from making a game like EQ in AI" like the examples.

Right now, right now someone could do that.

Someone already did with unity, without AI.

AI absolutely could help a seasoned programmer do work on a project like that ... but you are quite wrong if you think you can just ask Claude to port the EQ client to Unity and get that video. I will bet my life savings on this fact, I'm that certain of it.

Also, even if AI could make complex tweaks to the existing client ... that's still modifying existing software, which is different from making new software.

Plus ... we haven't even gotten to the server (which AI also can't make).

I'm not trying to be condescending, but when you keep making wildly false claims while refusing to educate yourself about reality, it's hard not to be.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but you are quite wrong if you think you can just ask Claude to port the EQ client to Unity and get that video. I will bet my life savings on this fact, I'm that certain of it.

Keep your life savings you retard, not one single person in this thread even wondered if that was possible.

The question was: Look someone built doom like this.

Can someone build eq like this?

Not, can someone wish EQ into existence because someone built Doom using AI?

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's also a bizarre take to be like "we just need to make power cheaper!" oh word? Is that all? Ok cool gl bro.

Thats not my take but if you think it is then that would explain why you're confused.

In response to someone saying that AI is not good at managing multiple tasks because it's not great with recursive memory. I mentioned that Power consumption is the reason.

I did not say with more power alexa could build whatever your heart could imagine.

I said recursive memory is EXPENSIVE right now, and soon it wont be because we're building private power plants.

Maybe try reading instead of misunderstanding and getting mad.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats not my take but if you think it is then that would explain why you're confused.

Maybe try reading instead of misunderstanding and getting mad.

ok cool gl bro

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ok cool gl bro

thanks bro gl.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The question was: Look someone built doom like this.

Can someone build eq like this?

Not, can someone wish EQ into existence because someone built Doom using AI?

With current AI tools (and the upgrades to said tools coming in the near future), you cannot build Everquest using AI to do the majority of the work. The techniques in the video OP posted would be woefully insufficient.

Can a team of developers build Everquest with the assistance of AI? Sure. The majority of the work would still be done by human programmers and artists.

This is not going to change in the next few years, unless we get a new breakthrough in AI.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With current AI tools (and the upgrades to said tools coming in the near future), you cannot build Everquest using AI to do the majority of the work. The techniques in the video OP posted would be woefully insufficient.

But to answer OPs question:

When can we make EQ with AI?

Right now. The answer is right now.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can a team of developers build Everquest with the assistance of AI? Sure. The majority of the work would still be done by human programmers and artists.

A team of developers could build it without AI in 1999.

One developer could build it without AI right now.

One person who doesnt know how to make games can make it with AI right now too.

Making it doesn't mean wishing it into existence.

It means making it. And using AI tools and youtube (LIKE THE GUY IN THE OP VIDEOS), they can figure it out.

This is not going to change in the next few years, unless we get a new breakthrough in AI.

I wouldn't expect much change in anything over a few years, but currently we're not hobbled by "breakthroughs in ai" right now, we're hobbled in "power consumption for AI"

Will more breakthroughs in ai make ai better? Yes.

Would more power right now (without breakthroughs in ai) make ai better? YES.

Right now the tools you're using, the highest paied tools, offer you like 20% of what their tools are capable of.

Because costs.

This is not speculative. It's a fact. Let models think longer, branch more, run more internal passes, use bigger context windows, or spawn helper agents performance goes up.
Reasoning improves.
Fewer mistakes.
Better planning.
That’s pure compute.
Throttled & limited because of power consumption.