How far are we from AI recreating EQ99?

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's also a bizarre take to be like "we just need to make power cheaper!" oh word? Is that all? Ok cool gl bro.

Thats not my take but if you think it is then that would explain why you're confused.

In response to someone saying that AI is not good at managing multiple tasks because it's not great with recursive memory. I mentioned that Power consumption is the reason.

I did not say with more power alexa could build whatever your heart could imagine.

I said recursive memory is EXPENSIVE right now, and soon it wont be because we're building private power plants.

Maybe try reading instead of misunderstanding and getting mad.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats not my take but if you think it is then that would explain why you're confused.

Maybe try reading instead of misunderstanding and getting mad.

ok cool gl bro

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ok cool gl bro

thanks bro gl.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The OP question is "how far are we from making a game like EQ in AI" like the examples.

Right now, right now someone could do that.

Someone already did with unity, without AI.

AI absolutely could help a seasoned programmer do work on a project like that ... but you are quite wrong if you think you can just ask Claude to port the EQ client to Unity and get that video. I will bet my life savings on this fact, I'm that certain of it.

Also, even if AI could make complex tweaks to the existing client ... that's still modifying existing software, which is different from making new software.

Plus ... we haven't even gotten to the server (which AI also can't make).

I'm not trying to be condescending, but when you keep making wildly false claims while refusing to educate yourself about reality, it's hard not to be.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but you are quite wrong if you think you can just ask Claude to port the EQ client to Unity and get that video. I will bet my life savings on this fact, I'm that certain of it.

Keep your life savings you retard, not one single person in this thread even wondered if that was possible.

The question was: Look someone built doom like this.

Can someone build eq like this?

Not, can someone wish EQ into existence because someone built Doom using AI?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The question was: Look someone built doom like this.

Can someone build eq like this?

Not, can someone wish EQ into existence because someone built Doom using AI?

With current AI tools (and the upgrades to said tools coming in the near future), you cannot build Everquest using AI to do the majority of the work. The techniques in the video OP posted would be woefully insufficient.

Can a team of developers build Everquest with the assistance of AI? Sure. The majority of the work would still be done by human programmers and artists.

This is not going to change in the next few years, unless we get a new breakthrough in AI.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With current AI tools (and the upgrades to said tools coming in the near future), you cannot build Everquest using AI to do the majority of the work. The techniques in the video OP posted would be woefully insufficient.

But to answer OPs question:

When can we make EQ with AI?

Right now. The answer is right now.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can a team of developers build Everquest with the assistance of AI? Sure. The majority of the work would still be done by human programmers and artists.

A team of developers could build it without AI in 1999.

One developer could build it without AI right now.

One person who doesnt know how to make games can make it with AI right now too.

Making it doesn't mean wishing it into existence.

It means making it. And using AI tools and youtube (LIKE THE GUY IN THE OP VIDEOS), they can figure it out.

This is not going to change in the next few years, unless we get a new breakthrough in AI.

I wouldn't expect much change in anything over a few years, but currently we're not hobbled by "breakthroughs in ai" right now, we're hobbled in "power consumption for AI"

Will more breakthroughs in ai make ai better? Yes.

Would more power right now (without breakthroughs in ai) make ai better? YES.

Right now the tools you're using, the highest paied tools, offer you like 20% of what their tools are capable of.

Because costs.

This is not speculative. It's a fact. Let models think longer, branch more, run more internal passes, use bigger context windows, or spawn helper agents performance goes up.
Reasoning improves.
Fewer mistakes.
Better planning.
That’s pure compute.
Throttled & limited because of power consumption.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The question was: Look someone built doom like this.

Can someone build eq like this?

Not, can someone wish EQ into existence because someone built Doom using AI?

ok so I finally actually watched that vid. Lol, lmao, kek even.

That guy didn't build doom, not even close. Plus, doom is open source, which makes it surprising how hood that was considering how it works top to bottom is already inside AI.

And I'll be honest I don't see a difference between your two questions. They're both trying to wish it into existence because someone did it with AI and then adamantly pushing back after being told "no" by people who actually use this shit and vaguely know how it works.

But to answer your question directly, no not really. You could use it to assist you in developing an mmo in unity or whatever, if you wanted, but no, it couldn't actually build the whole game for you. You'd come into too many problems with its inability to be consistent.

The bottom line is that AI can never, ever be used for anything important because it isn't idempotent.

There would have to be a substantial jump in its capabilities in order to do so.

[BradZax]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The bottom line is that AI can never, ever be used for anything important because it isn't idempotent.

There would have to be a substantial jump in its capabilities in order to do so.

THIS is where we're arguing about power consumption.

Going back to the first time I brought it up, it was in response to an absolutist statement like this, that is based off people using AI that is hard capped at about 10-20% of its actual capability.

The reason we see so much investment into AI is because at 100% usage, you don't see the mistakes we all see, you see better agents, you see worker replacement.

I'm just talking about the EXCITING and COOL technological advancements that are soon to come to blow our minds, because recently companies like META have been given the permission to build and operate their own power.

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean its your argument, so, I'm not really sure where you are anymore. The question has been asked and answered.

It sounds like you want to do this, so, don't let us stop you. Go learn how to program with AI big dawg glgl. You don't need a bunch of strangers permissions on a forum for a 30 year old emulated game.

I didn't comment if EQ would be build-able by just asking AI to make it.

I don't know if that will ever happen.

Can someone make a film like jurrasic park in their bedroom with AI video tools right now? I actually don't think so.

Could someone make everquest in their bedroom right now with AI tools? Yes absolutly.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never claimed that.

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Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think we're just waiting on more power. For example. Google image creation with Gemini using context costs about 3-5$ in wattage to generate a 6-10 second video. Vs their diffusion model for video generation is more like 5 cents or less.

That doesn't mean anything except it just gives you an idea about how much wattage context adds to the equation!

I am hoping corporations using their own nuclear reactors will be give us a big jump in usage.

https://www.latitudemedia.com/news/o...-nuclear-push/

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Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The OP question is "how far are we from making a game like EQ in AI" like the examples.

Right now, right now someone could do that.

Someone already did with unity, without AI.

So with AI, right now. Someone can make an everquest game with AI.

We just need someone to want to do it!

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Originally Posted by BradZax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok heres the answer to op:

Right now anyone (except for DSM or Loramin) can.

You claim it a bunch more throughout the thread, but I have better things to do than quote troll posts back at trolls.