Chardok exploitation hurting the spirit of the game

[Endorra]

Once, long ago, Cecily and they/them/their friends saved Chardok from evil exploitative trains.

*draws a circle on the floor*

We must call upon they/them once again. Long they have slept, now to be woke.

[cd288]

I love that theyre making channeling more classic. I don't think this is going to have the effect people think on Enchanters specifically though.

If you're getting hit as an Enchanter, then you're not very good at soloing as an Enchanter. I don't even main one or play my alt Enchanter very consistently at all and I can't remember the last time I died.

[Vaarsuvius]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love that theyre making channeling more classic. I don't think this is going to have the effect people think on Enchanters specifically though.

If you're getting hit as an Enchanter, then you're not very good at soloing as an Enchanter. I don't even main one or play my alt Enchanter very consistently at all and I can't remember the last time I died.

Nice silly blanket statement here.... Let me give it a try as well:
if you die when you're MT, you're bad


Ever tried playing an enchanter somewhere a bit smaller than South Karana where you have to stand next to your pet ? try Chardok, HS, PoM, Velk, Seb, or Skyshrine among others
ever had to step in melee range so your pet would not eat Enrage or get slowed ?
ever fought a summoning mob and/ or a summoning charmed pet ?

ever had a pet break at all ?

[Ekco]

wait what are they changing to channeling? please god don't nerf wizzy rend robe channel kiting
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[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wait what are they changing to channeling? please god don't nerf wizzy rend robe channel kiting
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From nilbog:

Instead of one roll with a small penalty per hit, the classic formula rolls separately for each hit. This means getting hit multiple times while casting is harder to channel through.

[sammoHung]

I have a feeling well see this is way overcranked in practice, but time will tell.

Currently: if you cast and get hit 6 times mid-cast, you get a penalty 6 times to your roll to succeed cast.

With patch: if you cast and get hit 6 times mid-cast, you have to win all 6 rolls to finish your cast.

I have a feeling casting while being hit will be literally impossible, depending on how many hits you take. Even a 1s cast won't matter, like color slant - lets say if your pet breaks and you've torched and hasted it - there's no way you're winning 4/4 rolls per quad attack.

Necro charming will be dead because of this. Screaming terror is a 2.5s cast. As it is, my necro loses like 1k HP on a bad charm break before a cast gets off.

Grats, Loramin!

[loramin]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a feeling well see this is way overcranked in practice, but time will tell.

Currently: if you cast and get hit 6 times mid-cast, you get a penalty 6 times to your roll to succeed cast.

With patch: if you cast and get hit 6 times mid-cast, you have to win all 6 rolls to finish your cast.

I have a feeling casting while being hit will be literally impossible, depending on how many hits you take. Even a 1s cast won't matter, like color slant - lets say if your pet breaks and you've torched and hasted it - there's no way you're winning 4/4 rolls per quad attack.

Necro charming will be dead because of this. Screaming terror is a 2.5s cast. As it is, my necro loses like 1k HP on a bad charm break before a cast gets off.

Grats, Loramin!

While I'm elated that P99 is getting more classic, I don't deserve any credit. The real heroes are the classic researchers who toiled to find the evidence ... and our all-volunteer dev team (mainly Nilbog in this case).

All I have ever done is bitch about charm being unclassic.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a feeling well see this is way overcranked in practice, but time will tell.

Currently: if you cast and get hit 6 times mid-cast, you get a penalty 6 times to your roll to succeed cast.

With patch: if you cast and get hit 6 times mid-cast, you have to win all 6 rolls to finish your cast.

I have a feeling casting while being hit will be literally impossible, depending on how many hits you take. Even a 1s cast won't matter, like color slant - lets say if your pet breaks and you've torched and hasted it - there's no way you're winning 4/4 rolls per quad attack.

Necro charming will be dead because of this. Screaming terror is a 2.5s cast. As it is, my necro loses like 1k HP on a bad charm break before a cast gets off.

Grats, Loramin!

In a dungeon yeah may be difficult for a Necro, but they do have FD so if Charm breaks just FD immediately and reset, no big deal.

Enchanters I guess on a technical basis the risk goes up for dungeon soloing, but anyone who is good with an Enchanter isn't getting hit on Charm breaks anyway.

[Ekco]

alright, that doesn't sound like it will effect my favorite emergent game mechanic/exploit.

carry on, fuck enchanters(who don't cast c2 on me when i beg)

[cd288]

I do wonder how this would affect Shaman face tanking and soloing