How to solo twink a rogue?

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Terrible advice, don’t listen to this, OP.

They are saying don’t swap weapons but use a shitty ratio 10 dmg weapon where you’re gonna have to do solo backstab tricks which is way harder. lol!

I think you misunderstood me. I said your advice was shitty and it's a shame that people like you are considered "information" now the all the old nerds are gone. I understand it's mean to tell people suggesting to swap around their weapons that they're not good at giving advice. I apologize if I come off abrasive telling you to never share an opinion online again. Like there's definitely a case for backstab swapping on stationary targets. Raid ones. It's stupid and try hard, but there's a potential benefit. It's straight up retarded for leveling up in groups. Sorry for yelling.

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Terrible advice, don’t listen to this, OP.

They are saying don’t swap weapons but use a shitty ratio 10 dmg weapon where you’re gonna have to do solo backstab tricks which is way harder. lol!

And let’s keep recommending weapons that a druid is not gonna be remotely able To camp.

Solo backstab tricks are the easiest trick in a rogue's arsenal. Weapon swapping is not hard, but it's tedious and will not do any good until you are 60 and have a primal spear or Vyemm dagger

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you misunderstood me. I said your advice was shitty and it's a shame that people like you are considered "information" now the all the old nerds are gone. I understand it's mean to tell people suggesting to swap around their weapons that they're not good at giving advice. I apologize if I come off abrasive telling you to never share an opinion online again. Like there's definitely a case for backstab swapping on stationary targets. Raid ones. It's stupid and try hard, but there's a potential benefit. It's straight up retarded for leveling up in groups. Sorry for yelling.

Double clicking left mouse while tapping 1 on the keyboard between those clicks every 10 seconds is superlatively difficult.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please don't recommend weapon swap autism to casual players who might be seriously considering using a Locustlure as a mainhand. At that point in the game it's ok to make mistakes (like using Locustlure for damage). Squeezing peak efficiency out of your DPS class isn't something that's going to happen for someone using that bad of ratio for one, and it's too much micro for minimal gains and fucking around in your bags is distracting from a period in time you're learning agro mechanics in higher level play.


"Not sure how it would fare in backstab damage dps wise"

Poorly. 10 dmg is really the floor for rogue leveling. Crystalline Spider Fangs probably sell for 50p now. It's a little better ratio (bad) and is better rogue suited. Also obtainable solo. Obviously you should just get a Mrylokars, but you can't zone into NToV until 46.

He's asking for a weap he can camp solo. On a mage/druid. SCD is not happening and CSF will be a very rough split for a weap worse than all the 10/20 options . So he's stuck with making the most of average weapons and so far you suggested nothing better considering his limitations. I personally wouldn't swap for BS but it is an option on the table. I'd just go 10/20 until 46 and then I'd see.

[Snaggles]

Swapping a single weapon slot by hovering an item is not hard.

If you are just talking ratio, 8/17 isn’t much worse than 10/18 once the damage bonus picks up. The slow makes up for that and then some. I’d rather rely on ratios or poison, with clickies ready to use than dancing to trick a “backstab from the front” but I play EQ lazily.

If you have ToV gear in your high 40’s it’s different but if shopping in of EC, the Locustlure and Seb dirk are solid items. The burning rapier really was killer when people still used EBW’s…but that was a while ago.

For a self camp I’d be looking to kill a Trakasaur. Any offhand would work with that; jade mace is an easy find.

[Cecily]

We're not just talking ratio. Ratio-wise it is much worse, about an expansion worth of difference. And 2 less in backstab damage. Locustlure is not a good weapon.

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Double clicking left mouse while tapping 1 on the keyboard between those clicks every 10 seconds is superlatively difficult.

While chasing a moving hitbox? Yeah it certainly makes it worse. Agro bounces all over the place in an exp group. Obviously you wanna control for chaos, but expecting the lack of it in a pickup group is not anchored in reality. It's tedious to play like that and eliminating sources of tedium is just smart when you're in group hell on a rogue. I highly recommend it. My friend guilted me into doing the punch trick on my monk with 2 handers, so as to not miss out on the theoretical 5-10 dps, and I never forgave him. Double clicking every T-staff round. What a shit way to play the game.

[Goregasmic]

@46 (7 dmg bonus)

Locustlure: (8x2+7)/17 = 1.353
Any 10/20:: (10x2+7)/20 = 1.300
Fester: (12x2+7)/23 = 1.348
Rabid chokidai fang: (14x2+7)/29 = 1.207

That's about the best OP could potentially have acess to unless he'd make an exception for SCD (1.500). Locustlure still beats other options in white damage outside backstab but if you want to minimize BS loss you could use it like a swarmcaller with minimal effort.

Side note: wiki rates locustlure as an ultra rare drop so that camp might not be worth the trouble for a 3k item. Scryer has a couple PH which could help a lot depending on spawn rate but he's a roamer in a high traffic area, you'd have to be on top of your game to not get it yanked by some other group around moats.

[Cecily]

Those numbers are a great scale of how good a thing is. It's roughly 1-10 scale (Mrylo Dagger stats work out to 1.94 for reference).
So Locustlure is about a 3.3 out of 10 weapon. Seb Dirk is 1.5 at that level. So it's a 5 out of 10 and can backstab better. This is actually is a significant difference. It's worth buying with port money.

To summarize my thoughts on the Seb Dirk:

 

[Goregasmic]

Yeah bigger numbers better.

Learn2read tho.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those numbers are a great scale of how good a thing is. It's roughly 1-10 scale (Mrylo Dagger stats work out to 1.94 for reference).
So Locustlure is about a 3.3 out of 10 weapon. Seb Dirk is 1.5 at that level. So it's a 5 out of 10 and can backstab better. This is actually is a significant difference. It's worth buying with port money.

To summarize my thoughts on the Seb Dirk:

 

Dude wants to farm items not work a job making money for ecmart