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Old 08-31-2025, 05:40 PM
Vexenu Vexenu is offline
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As a thought experiment to help demonstrate how powerful Enchanters are, imagine if other classes in the game suddenly had their best/most class-defining spell or ability removed entirely.

Warrior without Defensive/Evasive: terrible
Rogue without Backstab: awful
Monk without Feign Death: abysmal
Wizard without big nukes: lmao
Cleric without CH: nope
Shaman without slow: ouch
Necro without lifetaps: bro
Mage without pets: Oh dear god



Most of the other classes would be nerfed into near uselessness if not total unviability if you took away their best spell or ability. But if you remove charm from Enchanters? They're still arguably the #1 solo class in the game, and remain a valuable raid/group member with their buffs and CC. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Old 08-31-2025, 06:32 PM
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Necro without lifetaps: bro
resist patch: hold my beer
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Old 08-31-2025, 06:52 PM
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Maaaaybe khelkar icepaw meets your conditions. Enc werewolf illusion and faction spell to not be kos down there. Calms to get the pull off. Rapture to get it slowed, and the gear to help out with tanking/runes. Idk though. I’ll try to think of others.
I don't think you can kill it solo with summon pets, would be entertained if someone brought a video proving me wrong though.
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Old 09-01-2025, 03:42 AM
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I don't think you can kill it solo with summon pets, would be entertained if someone brought a video proving me wrong though.
Ain't no way you're killing khelkar with an animation pet
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Old 09-01-2025, 03:44 AM
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Wizard without big nukes: lmao

Mage without pets: Oh dear god
A wizard is literally mage without pets
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Old 09-01-2025, 06:36 AM
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Ain't no way you're killing khelkar with an animation pet
How many animation pets would be required?
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Old 09-01-2025, 08:08 AM
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A wizard is literally mage without pets
Except with roots, snares, stuns, and ports/evacs.
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Old 09-01-2025, 09:01 AM
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Except with roots, snares, stuns, and ports/evacs.
Wizard also gets eye and sword pets! So a magician without pets defacto couldn't be a wizard.

I had fun scumming 59 on my wiz in KC using the wizard pet. Everyone commented on how fun it was to see it in use, no one complained or told me to put it away (even we all knew it was bad). Ironically the mage summon items make the wiz sword pet far more viable thanks to reclaim energy.
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Old 09-01-2025, 09:52 AM
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How many animation pets would be required?
It’s hard to say. Never been attempted before I’m sure. The enc would need to be well geared and help out tanking a lot with runes as the pet would be taking way more dmg due to its max level.
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Old 09-01-2025, 10:53 AM
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A wizard is literally mage without pets
Wizards at least have their established niches of raid DPS, easy quad leveling, and ports/TPs.
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Except with roots, snares, stuns, and ports/evacs.
The funny thing about Wizards and Mages is you could combine the classes - literally make a "Wizard Mage" that had access to every single spell of each class - and it still would not solo as well as an Enchanter (or even a charming Necro, for that matter). That's how ridiculously busted charm is in EQ. In fact, you could combine Wizard/Mage/Cleric in a single class, and while it would probably level faster than the Enchanter, it would still struggle to keep up with what a 60 Enchanter can solo due to high-end mob scaling. The combination of charm, slow, haste, and top-of-the-line CC in a single class - at least as is currently implemented on P1999 - creates the most preposterously overpowered class in the history of MMOs, one that should have rightfully been nerfed into oblivion years ago.
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