Trak Rotation

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you don't like the current state of the server why don't you quit?

Good question, chump. Why are you still here?

[Zereh]

Originally Posted by Ring [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't TMA escalate camping out at the ledge into sitting at the ledge with a full raid force, which eventually led to the situation you're currently in (where both raid forces sit in the lair hitting closest NPC for hours on end)? You could have stopped before you got to this point but as a guild you volunteered to remove the mobilization aspect of the game to ensure you get a few Trak kills. I guess now you'll have to deal with the mess you created.

How it got to this point is irrelevant; we can't go backwards and undo it. It is what it is. It also takes two+ guilds to sock so the blame game does not solve anything. We can and will obviously sit there. And win. I'm just not a fan of it.

From this point forward is what I'm trying address.

[Ektar]

Originally Posted by Zereh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How it got to this point is irrelevant; we can't go backwards and undo it. It is what it is. It also takes two+ guilds to sock so the blame game does not solve anything. We can and will obviously sit there. And win. I'm just not a fan of it.

From this point forward is what I'm trying address.

yes. you can undo it. stop poopsocking :P that simple!



durison/zeelot tells you, 'hi, we're sick of this and going to stop poopsocking.'
xzerion tells you, 'ok sounds good.'




ho shit.


just remember the example of the mutating virus. it's all reactions to the first action. pull the first action and it will all go away.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that's like saying that a mutating virus is both the fault of the virus and an immune system. The immune system builds a defense to the virus, so the virus gets bigger and meaner. Then the immune system has to get even bigger and meaner, and thus the virus gets biggerer and meanerer. He who acted first is the cause.



correct, deal with the consequences of your decisions. if poopsocking is what you choose to do, then take responsibility as the ones causing poopsocking.




this is really a huge lol for me as an uninvolved party. EXACTLY like last year. empathy for you guise tho [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

both guilds want to get ahead.

TR gave up on VS the other day to go sock it and kill juggs/reets while waiting on trak to spawn. 10mins after they left, VS spawns and we kill him, then move down to Traks lair and watch TR kill juggs/reets for a few. (i go to bed). I wake up and log on to hear guild is still half sitting/half camped at ledge and TR is still down at Trak's lair too. I finally go down after leveling and TR has now moved from the bridge area killing juggs/reets to prot/tola area. TMO starts killing juggs/reets on bridge before moving up closer to Trak's spawn. Which in turn means both are now sockin trak.

Seems like both caused it last night. ( OMG opposition! What ever can I do to get a leg up!?!? )

[Ektar]

you're missing the point pal.

I'll elaborate, just gimmie a sec to edit


by doing it the FIRST time, a chain reaction has been caused to escalate it to this point. The first to act was tmo, as, quoted from zereh, it is "required" to kill trak. Implicit in this is the fact that if tmo stops, tr will stop.

it's not caused on a spawn-by-spawn basis. the immune system has evolved to the point that it has to get to trak's lair and poopsock before the virus even shows up. Still, if you pull that first action, it will all go away.

[Zereh]

So are you. <3

[Zereh]

Start here though: Not killing Trak is not an option.

Go!

[Ektar]

no, I'm not. I know the situation better than you possibly could - I lived the precise situation a year ago :P

again, I don't speak for TR, but refusal of a rotation is not "pro-poopsocking" - it is not giving in to someone who hurts both parties and demands a compromise

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're missing the point pal.

I'll elaborate, just gimmie a sec to edit


by doing it the FIRST time, a chain reaction has been caused to escalate it to this point. The first to act was tmo, as, quoted from zereh, it is "required" to kill trak. Implicit in this is the fact that if tmo stops, tr will stop.

it's not caused on a spawn-by-spawn basis. the immune system has evolved to the point that it has to get to trak's lair and poopsock before the virus even shows up. Still, if you pull that first action, it will all go away.

I get what you are saying, but it doesn't matter who did it first. It was going to happen.

People want loot, and will do whatever it takes to get it. even if other guild QQ's

[Alkorin]

Both guilds want Trak. Both guilds have resorted to poopsocking for Trak. Solution? A rotation. It's that easy. "Stop poopsocking, TMO" isn't a solution. It equates to "give the mob to TR".

Honestly, come on. Let's be reasonable here.

And the red vs. blue post above? This isn't the place, and you're beating a dead horse.