Claw of Lightning is disappointing (ranger)

[Snaggles]

I’ll have to revisit Shady Swashbuckler. It’s a 7 min respawn and always level 45. Can snare by the zone to North Ro and log a ton of dps. I recall it has some very weird AC mechanic that guts your damage output.

[TytosOfEight]

Our Guild get a lot of Vindi kills, so this is about 6 months of Vindi kills. I got my BoF about the same time as my Cek, but mostly used my Cek. On all of these parses I had a primal proc at one point or another. I had 50 Vindi kills using my Cek sword and
15 using my BoF/Sw. Overall, the dps with my Cek was 70.9 and the dps with my BoF/SW was 70.8.

Cek
DPS Time Damage
69 110 8118
61 95 5970
72 150 10852
93 58 5436
74 284 21257
69 179 12456
64 182 11734
65 137 8914
60 222 13455
77 143 11143
69 177 12267
62 93 5803
73 224 16574
71 204 14684
76 151 11490
84 253 21380
71 218 15599
78 104 8211
68 158 10829
76 251 19304
62 364 22690
71 288 20708
69 220 15286
66 139 9181
76 195 14975
79 251 19985
68 117 8034
70 189 13344
63 213 13613
73 162 11880
73 150 11016
67 138 9365
78 173 13519
80 212 17004
57 112 6453
63 205 12944
73 242 17711
56 184 10345
70 221 15645
62 104 6511
74 101 7501
63 226 14382
80 190 15259
69 172 11967
70 196 13910
68 138 9388
79 186 14826
75 123 8304
67 208 13942
68 199 13677
70.9 9011 638841

BoF/SW
DPS Time Damage
68 210 14304
74 132 9803
68 124 8489
72 145 10404
57 147 8414
77 143 11022
73 156 11447
68 147 10094
66 142 9445
73 280 20621
73 173 12683
61 142 8709
71 197 14158
78 196 15397
73 104 7653
70.8 2438 172643

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by TytosOfEight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our Guild get a lot of Vindi kills, so this is about 6 months of Vindi kills. I got my BoF about the same time as my Cek, but mostly used my Cek. On all of these parses I had a primal proc at one point or another. I had 50 Vindi kills using my Cek sword and
15 using my BoF/Sw. Overall, the dps with my Cek was 70.9 and the dps with my BoF/SW was 70.8.

Cek
DPS Time Damage
69 110 8118
61 95 5970
72 150 10852
93 58 5436
74 284 21257
69 179 12456
64 182 11734
65 137 8914
60 222 13455
77 143 11143
69 177 12267
62 93 5803
73 224 16574
71 204 14684
76 151 11490
84 253 21380
71 218 15599
78 104 8211
68 158 10829
76 251 19304
62 364 22690
71 288 20708
69 220 15286
66 139 9181
76 195 14975
79 251 19985
68 117 8034
70 189 13344
63 213 13613
73 162 11880
73 150 11016
67 138 9365
78 173 13519
80 212 17004
57 112 6453
63 205 12944
73 242 17711
56 184 10345
70 221 15645
62 104 6511
74 101 7501
63 226 14382
80 190 15259
69 172 11967
70 196 13910
68 138 9388
79 186 14826
75 123 8304
67 208 13942
68 199 13677
70.9 9011 638841

BoF/SW
DPS Time Damage
68 210 14304
74 132 9803
68 124 8489
72 145 10404
57 147 8414
77 143 11022
73 156 11447
68 147 10094
66 142 9445
73 280 20621
73 173 12683
61 142 8709
71 197 14158
78 196 15397
73 104 7653
70.8 2438 172643

Yeah that also lines up with my calculator. Average DPS between the two weapon sets is quite close.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by TytosOfEight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our Guild get a lot of Vindi kills, so this is about 6 months of Vindi kills. I got my BoF about the same time as my Cek, but mostly used my Cek. On all of these parses I had a primal proc at one point or another. I had 50 Vindi kills using my Cek sword and
15 using my BoF/Sw. Overall, the dps with my Cek was 70.9 and the dps with my BoF/SW was 70.8.

Cek
DPS Time Damage
69 110 8118
61 95 5970
72 150 10852
93 58 5436
74 284 21257
69 179 12456
64 182 11734
65 137 8914
60 222 13455
77 143 11143
69 177 12267
62 93 5803
73 224 16574
71 204 14684
76 151 11490
84 253 21380
71 218 15599
78 104 8211
68 158 10829
76 251 19304
62 364 22690
71 288 20708
69 220 15286
66 139 9181
76 195 14975
79 251 19985
68 117 8034
70 189 13344
63 213 13613
73 162 11880
73 150 11016
67 138 9365
78 173 13519
80 212 17004
57 112 6453
63 205 12944
73 242 17711
56 184 10345
70 221 15645
62 104 6511
74 101 7501
63 226 14382
80 190 15259
69 172 11967
70 196 13910
68 138 9388
79 186 14826
75 123 8304
67 208 13942
68 199 13677
70.9 9011 638841

BoF/SW
DPS Time Damage
68 210 14304
74 132 9803
68 124 8489
72 145 10404
57 147 8414
77 143 11022
73 156 11447
68 147 10094
66 142 9445
73 280 20621
73 173 12683
61 142 8709
71 197 14158
78 196 15397
73 104 7653
70.8 2438 172643

Bof never hit 80, cek did and some at times . Really in end doesn't matter but the highs of cek is something bof can't achieve

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bof never hit 80, cek did and some more at times . Really in end doesn't matter but the highs of cek is something bof can't achieve

[Salaryman]

RED99

SwiftWind is better because it has a lightning graphics and I am LiteNingHoof

RED99

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Salaryman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RED99

SwiftWind is better because it has a lightning graphics and I am LiteNingHoof

RED99

It's a good argument, and honestly Liteninghoof is probably my fave personality on red. No one else even tries to have fun.

[Snaggles]

While I don’t dispute the dominance (and affordability) of a Meljeldin, with a short parse a lucky extra double attack means a lot more.

For example:
Dps Time Total Damage
93 58 5436

Remove one double attack for a max round of 275x2 and you get 84dps from this same parse. In a similar way, it’s entirely possible a big crit (warrior or BFG) or rogue double backstab will push a parse far higher in a sub 1min fight than it would on an 6+ minute one. I know crits are not relevant in this situation but just using as an example why a bit of lucky RNG can mean a lot more with less time to smooth out that curve.

Also, I haven’t added up all that damage and divided by time on target to get a true average. Maybe that would be a more accurate way to measure this data (presuming buffs are the same)?

Finding that balance between raid-level mitigation, controlling variables (buffs), and surviving for 10+ minutes of parsing is the hard part.

Anyway, great data!! I have a lot of Vindi parses at this point and while I can’t recall all the specifics of each my own testing generally tips to favor the 2h. It’s a bruiser even with EC haste and Shissar.

[TytosOfEight]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While I don’t dispute the dominance (and affordability) of a Meljeldin, with a short parse a lucky extra double attack means a lot more.

For example:
Dps Time Total Damage
93 58 5436

Remove one double attack for a max round of 275x2 and you get 84dps from this same parse. In a similar way, it’s entirely possible a big crit (warrior or BFG) or rogue double backstab will push a parse far higher in a sub 1min fight than it would on an 6+ minute one. I know crits are not relevant in this situation but just using as an example why a bit of lucky RNG can mean a lot more with less time to smooth out that curve.

Also, I haven’t added up all that damage and divided by time on target to get a true average. Maybe that would be a more accurate way to measure this data (presuming buffs are the same)?

Finding that balance between raid-level mitigation, controlling variables (buffs), and surviving for 10+ minutes of parsing is the hard part.

Anyway, great data!! I have a lot of Vindi parses at this point and while I can’t recall all the specifics of each my own testing generally tips to favor the 2h. It’s a bruiser even with EC haste and Shissar.

The last line on each parse group is just that - the total damage / time. It showed basically the same overall dps for both weapons.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by TytosOfEight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The last line on each parse group is just that - the total damage / time. It showed basically the same overall dps for both weapons.

Oh thanks. I’m seeing that now but recall you mentioned this when you initially posted it.