Scout Quest is Going Away (Woot)

[shovelquest]

When I die in an FPS I say, "damn bad RNG".... if that guy that was around the corner wasn't playing that night I'd be alive. Bad luck!

An FPS is bad luck....

That's how schizo gaming makes you.

Luck is not real.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luck is not real.

Nothing is real, my friend.

[shovelquest]

Me dying of the same thing literally everything else does:

"Im telling you it's all fake!"

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think loramin is just mad at losing scout roll or something.

For the record, I don't think I've ever even participated in a Scout roll ... but that's not a principled stance: I just don't want Scout loot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I did go to the Angy Goblin roll though, many times (hell, I helped start it), and it's also a sort of "lottery ticket" (albeit one that doesn't require a raid force). I like loot as much as the next person.

My opposition to the Scout meta is not personal, it's just me remembering that the point of this place is to recreate EQ from '99-'01 ... and recognizing that there were no lottery tickets in '99-'01 (unless you count EC Tunnel gambling).

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It isn’t showing up and being lucky. It is showing up and offering your help to an organised group of people with a chance of being the person who benefits from everyone’s offer to help. Scout is basically a dark guild.

I disagree: it's not a perfectly classic "dark guild", because guilds had a very clear definition in classic ... and it wasn't "everyone on the server who wants to do quest ____".

Classic EQ was about friendship and camaraderie with your team, something you Jimjam seem to appreciate more than most posters. Lottery tickets are one more reason for everyone to stay in their anti-social bubble and avoid pursuing that camaraderie with a (real) guild.

[Trexller]

Can't roll for loot anymore, it's not classic

Classic is hereafter determined by Loramin's whims

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Classic is hereafter determined by Loramin's whims

The king is dead, long live the king!

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't roll for loot anymore, it's not classic

Classic is hereafter determined by Loramin's whims

It seems clear: Pug no byo for fungi but byo no pug for scout.

Okay, i don’t wanna rib Loramin too much I reckon he is an aight geezar. I also reckon the real reason we can pug Scout on p99 is how efficient the players are at predicting her spawns. She can be anticipated instead of discovered.

[shovelquest]

Wait is the player base coming to an agreement and creating a society and economic system to manage it, being anti-social??

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For the record, I don't think I've ever even participated in a Scout roll ... but that's not a principled stance: I just don't want Scout loot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I did go to the Angy Goblin roll though, many times (hell, I helped start it), and it's also a sort of "lottery ticket" (albeit one that doesn't require a raid force). I like loot as much as the next person.

My opposition to the Scout meta is not personal, it's just me remembering that the point of this place is to recreate EQ from '99-'01 ... and recognizing that there were no lottery tickets in '99-'01 (unless you count EC Tunnel gambling).



I disagree: it's not a perfectly classic "dark guild", because guilds had a very clear definition in classic ... and it wasn't "everyone on the server who wants to do quest ____".

Classic EQ was about friendship and camaraderie with your team, something you Jimjam seem to appreciate more than most posters. Lottery tickets are one more reason for everyone to stay in their anti-social bubble and avoid pursuing that camaraderie with a (real) guild.

No guilds no masters. Power to the people!

You can't very well go back to scout to being "discoverable". People know too much.

Just simulate the kill crew you would have summoned from your guild.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait is the player base coming to an agreement and creating a society and economic system to manage it, being anti-social??

It discourages classically joining a guild, but obviously it's "social" activity in some sense.

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems clear: Pug no byo for fungi but byo no pug for scout.

Okay, i don’t wanna rib Loramin too much I reckon he is an aight geezar.

I get why the usual trolls respond, but Jimjam I really thought you appreciated classic EQ, and in particular the way it channeled individuals (who were mostly anti-social nerds IRL) into joining large ongoing social groups together (ie. guilds). A bunch of people you interact with briefly to claim your ticket (or to help someone else claim their's) isn't that.