American Debt Ceiling Debate- Default on August 2nd Looming

[FuglyP99]

The debt ceiling should not be raised. Not raising the debt ceiling does not mean that we will default. We have plenty of money to pay the principal and interest and figure out how far we can stretch what is left. Besides, we've had several significant defaults in our history, and this is nothing new. Not to mention we continually default through inflation.

What we really need to do is stop giving politicians blank checks and force them to work within some sort of budget dictated by tax revenue, not by putting the whole country on an adjustable rate mortgage while we have interest rates this low when it is certain that they can't remain low forever.

That said, it certainly doesn't mean just raise taxes until we can cover our current obligations. Our current obligations exist because of a culture of reckless spending on both sides, and that is what needs to be addressed. There can be such a thing as a fiscally conservative Democrat. Too bad Republicans tend be be more of social conservatives than fiscal ones. Maybe I could get behind them more if they stopped pushing social issues.

As for the other direction of this thread, no drugs should be prohibited by law, at least not at the Federal level. Addicts and abusers shouldn't be treated as criminals. Non-violent drug offenders do not deserve to be in prison. They aren't hurting anyone but themselves, and they should be free to do so. Instead of trying to protect people from themselves, try giving them no option but to be responsible, and maybe you'd see the populace wise up a bit.

[Convict]

Originally Posted by FuglyP99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for the other direction of this thread, no drugs should be prohibited by law, at least not at the Federal level. Addicts and abusers shouldn't be treated as criminals. Non-violent drug offenders do not deserve to be in prison. They aren't hurting anyone but themselves, and they should be free to do so. Instead of trying to protect people from themselves, try giving them no option but to be responsible, and maybe you'd see the populace wise up a bit.

This ^. Vote Ron Paul

[deakolt]

Fitter, happier, more productive,
comfortable,
not drinking too much,
regular exercise at the gym (3 days a week),
getting on better with your associate employee contemporaries,
at ease,
eating well (no more microwave dinners and saturated fats),
a patient better driver,
a safer car (baby smiling in back seat),
sleeping well (no bad dreams),
no paranoia,
careful to all animals (never washing spiders down the plughole),
keep in contact with old friends (enjoy a drink now and then),
will frequently check credit at (moral) bank (hole in the wall),
favors for favors,
fond but not in love,
charity standing orders,
on Sundays ring road supermarket (no killing moths or putting boiling water on the ants),
car wash (also on Sundays),
no longer afraid of the dark or midday shadows
nothing so ridiculously teenage and desperate,
nothing so childish - at a better pace,
slower and more calculated,
no chance of escape,
now self-employed,
concerned (but powerless),
an empowered and informed member of society (pragmatism not idealism),
will not cry in public,
less chance of illness,
tires that grip in the wet
(shot of baby strapped in back seat),
a good memory,
still cries at a good film,
still kisses with saliva,
no longer empty and frantic like a cat tied to a stick,
that's driven into frozen winter shit
(the ability to laugh at weakness),
calm,
fitter,
healthier and more productive
a pig in a cage on antibiotics.

[Pringles]

SNL figured it out - why cant the federal government?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/1389/satur...dont-buy-stuff

[Bardalicious]

How has a Slathar thread made it to page 5 without a single diabetic and/or fat reference directed toward one party or the other?


THAT'S THE REAL FUCKING MYSTERY HERE PEOPLE. THE DEBT IS A LIE.