P99 is a custom easy mode server

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by booter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

turns out it's just been an emu being run in some dude's basement this entire time

I've played on it since 2009 and I don't remember so many wacky GM antics that are totally disconnected from the themes and lore of the game, just saying it's kind of off putting.

[loramin]

It's a catch-22 situation. For years here everyone complained that there were no GM events, so now the GMs responded and gave us "GM Events"

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... and now people complain about the events instead.

Of course, if the staff did actual/classic GM events, instead of just illusion trolling, I'm sure everyone would love them and there would be no complaints ... except for the GMs themselves.

Evidently they hate running classic GM events (I'm not putting words in their mouth, I'm just going by the fact that they never run them). So in summary:

• run no events: players complain
• run illusion events: players complain
• run classic GM events: GMs complain

There's no way to make everyone happy.

[Ooloo]

Yeah that's very true. And 99% of the time I have nothing but sympathy for the people who volunteer to steer this whole thing. It's just the random arbitrary yellow text shouts that are kind of jarring. When I see yellow text I immediately think it's a quake, then you read it and it's like oh.. uh, doofus mcgee leveled? Who is that? Why is a gm shouting this? Why are we being instructed to send somebody tells? What is going on?

The bristlebane thing was really cool, that's the type of gm event I love.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never forget everything that has happened on P99 occurred with EQEmu channeling code. Level 1 you have 70% success rate compared to 30% in classic. You're basically a level 40 caster starting at level 1. Finding this out and putting in the work for this bug report is what ruined P99 for me.

https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395675

I don't know what the staff thinks about this because they haven't said a word since I originally told Nilbog I was looking into this and he said he would check it out. I believe he said something like "next week." So did they change anything? Are they using stock EQEmu channeling? I don't know but I do know I confirmed on P99 at level 1 you've got ~50-70% success rate when I started this research.

So even if they want to provide the usual snarky response after months/years of ignoring the community, I'd contend it's a dick move to tell someone you're going to look into hours of work they put into your project then ghosting them when it seems to reveal the server is wildly unclassic and basically easy mode.

Just remember every single time you channel a spell you're experiencing custom easy mode EverQuest. Especially if more than one mob is hitting you because EQEmu just applies an adjustment for multiple attack hits up to a cap around 15 but in classic every hit required a separate channeling roll and if any of them failed you wouldn't cast.

This is before we even get into things like experience rates, raiding, and all the other easy mode aspects of P99.

Without getting into all the vitriol, I again, thank you for the interest/work you did regarding the subject of channeling. At the time it was posted, we had more source code devs than are active now, and (this one bug report) has not been finalized for a patch. If we use any portion of what you suggested, you will certainly be credited.

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kind of a sidebar issue but I have noticed lately a lot of strange spammy GM server messages. Today for example "Hey send this other gm a joke! You get a prize!" or "Everyone send tells to X they just leveled!". Or gm's showing up at EC tunnel and turning everyone into a spider. It just comes off as spammy and makes the server seem like an emu being run out of some kid's basement.

What GM server messages are you talking about? Send me a PM and describe specifics if you want. From a cursory glance, I don't see them.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course, if the staff did actual/classic GM events, instead of just illusion trolling, I'm sure everyone would love them and there would be no complaints ... except for the GMs themselves.

Evidently they hate running classic GM events (I'm not putting words in their mouth, I'm just going by the fact that they never run them).

Do you have enough evidence to 'run classic GM events'? That's the blocker I came across; I don't. There are ongoing efforts to do several classically 'inspired' events, but to simply say, oh yeah, run classic GM events without knowing requirements. That's not happening.

[Ripqozko]

We need the best GM event, Project M still. Orc pawn gang gang

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just to circle back, isn't that exactly what azxten did? He presented a bug post with evidence to help make this place more classic, and the staff said:

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Or am I missing something?

Did they really say that or say "we'll look into it"? Don't give me some 'silence speaks volumes' BS either. Peeps have real life that doesn't cause them to fix things instantly. and like I said, some seemingly simply mechanics can be very tricky to implement. As an example Telin was unable to increase frequency of mage pet casts just by playing with database values. +mana cap on items has very good evidence, but who knows how this client handles things. Sneak Pulling / Push to interrupt NPCs was the silliest easy mode thing that was super not classic and lasted for like 10 years or something before being fixed.

The fact is this server emulates classic everquest extremely accurately as back in the day. Meta junkies need to chill the fuck out and stop bitching when a fix doesn't go their way immediately and just be thankful for what they have. If they never patched P99 ever again it would still be an awesome museum server to the original EQ.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We need the best GM event, Project M still. Orc pawn gang gang

There's lots of bad legends server loot available, it doesn't all have to be guises.

[magnetaress]

It doesn't matter if the majority of archived allahkazam or eq castersrealm agrees with us tho. Or if we post evidence.


All it takes is one opinion to the contrary on 2002 allahkazam and a half assed showeq cloning of EQmac missing tons of data to "prove" a community of OG EQ addicts who where there in 1999 "wrong" on basis of "feels for how dragons in NToV" should be like and "fairness".

The EQ i remember was nothing like the p99 of now mostly tho because those still playing play in a specifically biased way (that leads to more unclassic changes) than the majority who played classicly.

[Rygar]

Such exaggerations up in here about "single zam post waaaah". That is hardly ever the case except for low barrier things like proving an item existed at a certain point in time.

Raid rules aside the game is legit classic, and obviously working towards constant improvement

[Infectious]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did they really say that or say "we'll look into it"? Don't give me some 'silence speaks volumes' BS either. Peeps have real life that doesn't cause them to fix things instantly. and like I said, some seemingly simply mechanics can be very tricky to implement. As an example Telin was unable to increase frequency of mage pet casts just by playing with database values. +mana cap on items has very good evidence, but who knows how this client handles things. Sneak Pulling / Push to interrupt NPCs was the silliest easy mode thing that was super not classic and lasted for like 10 years or something before being fixed.

The fact is this server emulates classic everquest extremely accurately as back in the day. Meta junkies need to chill the fuck out and stop bitching when a fix doesn't go their way immediately and just be thankful for what they have. If they never patched P99 ever again it would still be an awesome museum server to the original EQ.

Exactly. Let them turn off this server and see what people have to say.