What does it take to make a pvp server?

[SearyxTZ]

I like you Fonzo, but you were not the greatest GM.

Who did you think was better?

I'm curious because Sirken was the closest thing VZTZ had to a GM that the players actually approved of

[SearyxTZ]

I think that was the downfall of vztz because the people behind the box took too much on themselves and didn't find enough trustworthy people to help out.

yea I think the new guide turnover rate was at least 50%

one of two things would happen:

1.) Guide gets burned out after one week of answering petitions - is never seen or heard from again.

2.) Guide is discovered funneling info/items/something to a specific guild / his buddies / etc and has to be banned

[Krimsin]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your a fucking idiot. if you knew how to PvP or how to play your class, you wouldnt need trains, or even consider them a viable tactic. play better.

Ask anyone who has ever PvP'd against me. I'm about the most honorable fighter there is. I don't train, I don't crouch behind guards, I don't cheat, I don't plug. I accept the wins and losses that my skills and my toon yields.

For having a fantastic label surrounding your name as a GM, you sure are judgmental.

I played a paladin named Phoso on guildwars, I played a warrior named IvIurder on Altergate (flame away).

I think you don't get me because you feel like I'm like the rest of these clowns, you mistake me as a person who actually gives a shit about my name being spouted on some board in a negative fashion. I don't.

Of all the "big" names tossed around on these boards from VZTZ and other boxes, very few actually impressed me when I've played with them or against them. They are usually timid, careful, risk-off players, who are blatant opportunists, usually to the point of being pathetic and cowardly, just so they can brag on some board. This defeats the point of PVP IMO.

My opinion on training and other such tactics is simple. If you have to do it to win, you've already lost. The truth always comes out on any player who looks great on a box, rarely they can hold up to the standard which proceeds them.

[Bardalicious]

^ IvIurder was a pretty stand-up guy on AG. Despite whipping my ass with his Ice Age bow.

[Pudge]

training should be illegal. if there is only 1 rule for red99 it should be that.

not hard to monitor. rule should be simple: fraps or it didn't happen.

[Aenor]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a reliable motivator though.

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As I stated in my please save basketball thread, if donations are needed let us know. The PvP community has shown that it will throw money at shit like the Gronkus box (although I'm told the server P99 blue is run on sells on eBay for like $300).

A bunch of us want to play and if Rogean et al posted today and said "if we can raise $1000 in the next 7 days, there will be a Red99," I bet they would get that grand. I got $100 on it.

[Knuckle]

I think the infamous gronkus box was worth a few gs?

[PurelyElf]

Originally Posted by Krimsin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ask anyone who has ever PvP'd against me. I'm about the most honorable fighter there is. I don't train, I don't crouch behind guards, I don't cheat, I don't plug. I accept the wins and losses that my skills and my toon yields.

For having a fantastic label surrounding your name as a GM, you sure are judgmental.

I played a paladin named Phoso on guildwars, I played a warrior named IvIurder on Altergate (flame away).

I think you don't get me because you feel like I'm like the rest of these clowns, you mistake me as a person who actually gives a shit about my name being spouted on some board in a negative fashion. I don't.

Of all the "big" names tossed around on these boards from VZTZ and other boxes, very few actually impressed me when I've played with them or against them. They are usually timid, careful, risk-off players, who are blatant opportunists, usually to the point of being pathetic and cowardly, just so they can brag on some board. This defeats the point of PVP IMO.

My opinion on training and other such tactics is simple. If you have to do it to win, you've already lost. The truth always comes out on any player who looks great on a box, rarely they can hold up to the standard which proceeds them.

So why should training be allowed, then? SZ was a social experiment, and the most hopeful thing about it was that it was the least populated server.

[Lasher]

Id dont like trains but it cant be policed enough. first person trains the raid and the raid wipes and gm gets attention but the harm is already done. Having fraps proof on vztz helped alot but still was happening way too much to police. In the end what usually happened is the person(s) who trained first get away with it and the people who got trained either chose to be noble and not train back but most likely lose the encounter or they train back but by then a gm is there and a gm has witnessed a train and ban hammers galore. Id say in my personal experience on vztz the retaliation trainer gets caught more than the initial trainer

[JayDee]

Lasher loves trains