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Old 01-31-2023, 06:49 PM
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SK is somewhat limited, but also underrated. Great at tagging, can do train outs, can tank 32k stuff just fine, etc. For example, when lots of wanding is involved in a messy pull, sometimes the decisiveness of a nice shadow vortex works wonders. Unfortunately, most hybrid tanks want to be _tanks_ for velious raid mobs, which is generally _not_ on the menu.
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Old 01-31-2023, 07:19 PM
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SK is somewhat limited, but also underrated. Great at tagging, can do train outs, can tank 32k stuff just fine, etc. For example, when lots of wanding is involved in a messy pull, sometimes the decisiveness of a nice shadow vortex works wonders. Unfortunately, most hybrid tanks want to be _tanks_ for velious raid mobs, which is generally _not_ on the menu.
I agree they are underrated. And they see a bit more play in VP, which is nice. I am just saying generally speaking SK's are scorned in raids. You are logging onto a guild bot more than doing SK specific things hehe. So I wouldn't recommend min/maxing for raiding, unless your dream is to specifically make the best SK raider there is.

The problem is Necromancers can pull in the same manner that SK's can, but they have access to Harmshield and DA Earring. That makes them the better option most of the time. Shadowknights would be MUCH stronger in raids if they had access to Harmshield, since they would basically just be a tankier Necro with more FDs. Un-nerfing lifetaps would help a ton too. They need to just nerf Ivandyrs Hoop instead of nerfing all lifetaps IMO.
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Old 01-31-2023, 08:23 PM
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Harmshield and sight graft would be killer for sure, but death peace and general tankiness is a real advantage over necro for tagging/pulling in raid zones. Necros excel much more at bone walking and DA training. They don't really overlap in roles except for the occasional train away.
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Old 01-31-2023, 10:01 PM
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Harmshield and sight graft would be killer for sure, but death peace and general tankiness is a real advantage over necro for tagging/pulling in raid zones. Necros excel much more at bone walking and DA training. They don't really overlap in roles except for the occasional train away.
Sks really got the shaft on spells compared to a Necro when you look at a pally compared to a cleric which basically get a lesser form of everything besides blur. They really shoulda given them harmshield, call of bones(yes I know there’s a weapon) and sight graft.
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Old 01-31-2023, 10:40 PM
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Sks really got the shaft on spells compared to a Necro when you look at a pally compared to a cleric which basically get a lesser form of everything besides blur. They really shoulda given them harmshield, call of bones(yes I know there’s a weapon) and sight graft.
Agreed. When you need a tanky puller, Monks generally fit the bill. When you need a DA puller with a pet, Necros generally fit the bill. SK's are just in a weird middle ground where they don't have a good tank disc, and they don't have any DA abilities outside of Idol.
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Old 02-01-2023, 01:44 AM
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Agreed. When you need a tanky puller, Monks generally fit the bill. When you need a DA puller with a pet, Necros generally fit the bill. SK's are just in a weird middle ground where they don't have a good tank disc, and they don't have any DA abilities outside of Idol.
Yea it wasn’t until later where SKs and aoe taunt made them pretty much essential to win raids.
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Old 02-22-2023, 05:42 PM
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Sks really got the shaft on spells compared to a Necro when you look at a pally compared to a cleric which basically get a lesser form of everything besides blur. They really shoulda given them harmshield, call of bones(yes I know there’s a weapon) and sight graft.
They did later on, just not in this timeline [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Harmshield is actually a level 50 SK spell starting in... Luclin? PoP? And they get the skelly lines eventually.
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Old 02-22-2023, 07:09 PM
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Harmshield was a little over a month before PoP launch.

SK got a mini lich in the form of deathly temptation in Luclin. The Yelinak sword was still better though.

SKs were trash from Kunark to Omens of War.
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Old 02-22-2023, 03:17 PM
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isnt death peace a non-fail fd?
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Old 02-22-2023, 04:02 PM
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Idk. You can fuck up fd even when it don’t fail. Human error is a thing.
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