Epics and their relative powers

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Knuckle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the druid epic is underestimated by many because it lacks raid utility. It changes what you can accomplish and the solo encounters you can complete due to the efficiency of the mana free dot/snare.

Yea I’ve seen some Druids root rot like 8 mobs at a time with epic. Once you have engorging roots it’s pretty reliable equaling the epic duration so you can go pretty crazy with. It’s nice to not have to worry about getting in that last big tick like shaman epic if you want to reapply it if root breaks early.

[Magaman]

Ranger epics look the coolest therefore are the best epics/most game changing. Hope this helps.

[astuce999]

The Bard epic is the only mechanically unique ability that fits the "game changer" argument.

Yes, Puretone exists, but it has a 4 minute duration and a 72 minute cooldown.

The Bard epic will give a singing modifier to these songs:

-Level 20 and 32 mana songs (currently bugged on p99)
-All of the Psalm lines, increasing both the resists and DS components
-Charisma song (helping with DI)
-Jonthan's line of self haste, improving the strength and attack components
-Niv's Harmonic - increasing the AC and the damage absorb components
-Largo's Assonant Binding - increasing the AGI and AC debuff component
-Verses of Victory - Improves the AGI, AC, Str components (everything but haste)
-Elegy - improves the INT/WIS buff, for skill ups
-Anti-Magic - improves the strength of the dispell

cheers,

Astuce

[Tunabros]

i mean u can get do most raids on p99 with kunark gear with the exception of

AoW, Tunare, and Sontalak

some ToV can maybe do with only kunark gear but can be kinda dicey and need the

classes

a lot of classes dont even need their epic and its just used as a stat stick

[Vexenu]

I think Rogue Epic is being underappreciated in terms of how much of a ridiculous power spike it provides as a single item. It obviously doesn't change how the class plays, but it makes a Rogue incredibly more effective at their role, is the easiest Epic to complete and isn't replaced until very high end Velious weapons come into play. It's really an absurd power spike for Rogues going from Classic into Kunark and acquiring a Ragebringer. Even the droppabale Kunark weapons for Rogues don't even come close to it, which isn't the case with Monks, who have Kunark weapons like SoS, T staff and IFS that are right in line with their Epic DPS. Nothing comes close to Ragebringer for Rogues.

[Fammaden]

Rogue epic is easily the second most impactful to raiding after cleric. Most of velious was probably tuned around its existence and wouldn't die in time without it. Wasn't the OP question of course though, it doesn't really impact the rogue themselves other than actually turning them from a bad classic class to an insane one in Kunark. Playstyle doesn't change.

[jolanar]

Monk epic is so good they eventually had to start making other gloves with the same effect so monks could finally equip something else.

I'd say from a longevity perspective cleric and bard and then monk are probably the best.

Even by Velious a lot of them are effectively obsolete.

[Selene]

Which epics are game changing from a solo perspective only? I think necro shaman and druid's seem to be the pick here?

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Selene [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which epics are game changing from a solo perspective only? I think necro shaman and druid's seem to be the pick here?

Monk. Shaman get DoTs and can cannibalize to regain mana - so a mana free DoT is nice to have, but Monk gets a 41% haste that stacks with worn haste, and is worn in hand-slot. Which means that a monk with a Seahorse Belt + Epic has 75% haste solo.

[Vaarsuvius]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monk. Shaman get DoTs and can cannibalize to regain mana - so a mana free DoT is nice to have, but Monk gets a 41% haste that stacks with worn haste, and is worn in hand-slot. Which means that a monk with a Seahorse Belt + Epic has 75% haste solo.

Free 1.4k DoT that stacks with any other one a shaman might want to cast. the only mana an epic shaman coud spend to grind for hours on end is to refresh root & debuff

Necro epic gives you a free snare & minor DoT, and the snare series costs a lot of mana.
Both will allow you to solo a number of mobs you would not dream of w/o it.

So I would rate them better than a 41% or even 50% haste weapon