Highspeed rail is B$it

[Jibartik]

Me: bail outs are bad

Kaveh: WE HAV ETO FIGHT THE CHINESE WE HAV ETO PROTECT OURSELVES FROM RUSSIA IM SO SCARED YOURE A SIMP SIMP YOURE A SIMP!

me: Train travel is not as cheep as you think

KAVEH: LETS MAKE AIR TRAVEL MORE EXPENSIVE THEN!

SMH

[nostalgiaquest]

One more since you edited your post while I was responding

“BRO do you think construction workers are traveling to the job on airplanes?! You're offering a 5 hour commutes on trains to get to work for labor jobs!?”

I’m an engineer for a company that builds high tech buildings. The project managers, design engineers, and inspectors are usually from out of country, and perform multiple site visits through the project. The actual construction contractors are all local, but when I go to site to do inspections, commissioning, or oversee projects, I also wear PPE.

You really have no clue what you’re talking about. It’s sad.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by nostalgiaquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One more since you edited your post while I was responding

“BRO do you think construction workers are traveling to the job on airplanes?! You're offering a 5 hour commutes on trains to get to work for labor jobs!?”

I’m an engineer for a company that builds high tech buildings. The project managers, design engineers, and inspectors are usually from out of country, and perform multiple site visits through the project. The actual construction contractors are all local, but when I go to site to do inspections, commissioning, or oversee projects, I also wear PPE.

You really have no clue what you’re talking about. It’s sad.

Americans make more than 405 million long-distance business trips per year. This means about 1.1 million people are traveling for business every day in the U.S.

405 millionHow many people travel for business annually?
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405 millionHow many people travel for business annually?
405 millionHow many people travel for business annually?
405 millionHow many people travel for business annually?
405 millionHow many people travel for business annually?
405 millionHow many people travel for business annually?
405 millionHow many people travel for business annually?
405 millionHow many people travel for business annually?
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How many for your wierd freak job where you travel on comerical airlines with a giant bag full of chemcial enginering equipment that you pefer to walk from the subway to your hotel than take a cab?

You're actually trying to tell me that you prefer taking a 17 hour train than a 2 hour flight, because you have a fucking hard hat you dont want to get wrinkled?

[nostalgiaquest]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Americans make more than 405 million long-distance business trips per year. This means about 1.1 million people are traveling for business every day in the U.S.

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But if you look at the vast majority of travel in areas where there are high speed rail, its business, no checked bags, and drivers available.

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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I thought we were talking about countries with high speed rail. I can’t keep up with how fast you shift the goal posts.

You’ve gone full Ooloo at this point. Never go full Ooloo.

I’m guessing you have some menial desk job and have never been on a business trip.

Edit: BRO

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by nostalgiaquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought we were talking about countries with high speed rail. I can’t keep up with how fast you shift the goal posts.

You’ve gone full Ooloo at this point. Never go full Ooloo.



Edit: BRO

You know what people mean when they say "I thought?"

Besides, you cant say taking a 5 hour train in the morning from London to Paris for business and then another 5 hour train ride on the way home beats taking a 1 hour flight for less, is better without being wrong.

I’m guessing you have some menial desk job and have never been on a business trip.

Well you're a stupid jerk to guses that but thanks for revealing you think trying to say someone who has a menial desk job is a shit person, or doesnt deserve to have an opinion compared to yours (asshole mentality)

Top ten carreers taht require travel:

Travel nurse.
Archaeologist. ...
Athletic scout. ...
Management consultant. ...
Event coordinator. ...
Flight attendant. ...
Travel agent. ...
Geoscientist.

Now: explain to me how taking a train from london to paris - is going to fufill any those jobs?

You said: trains are better because they drop you off at a central location - maybe next to your hotel.

you said, trains are better if you have to check a bag.

So your argument for trains, literally is: You can walk your bag so large you have to check it from the train station to your hotel - arguign that is somehow better than a 10-25 dollar uber ride? FOR BUISNESSS!?!?!?!?!

Like you're going to lug a bag SO BIG you cant even comprehend how you can bring it on carryon, for your job, and you're gonna drag that shit through the train station and street - because you dont want to pay for an uber?

Dude youre telling me that you think I travel less for buisness, and thats the line you're trying to sell me?

Come on man.

Another majkor problem with euro travel on train (you shoudl know this) is that the train stations are not as "perfectly placed" as you seemed to imply they were (next to my hotel)

Train stations and transfers is a HUGE issue in europe, and they are currently COMPLETELY trying to redo the entire system, becuase the current one works so poorly.

Cmon man!

I woke up at 6 1-3 days a week for 4 years, flew 500 miles, a car picked me up, and at the end of the dropped me back off at the airport, and I flew 500 miles back and had dinner at home.

The idea that you think that id rather do that on a train for 10 hours a trip because I can check a bag is laughable. Those flights were 35 minuets, and door to door 1 hour and 10. I had it down to a science (wake up get dressed go to work).

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know what people mean when they say "I thought?"

Besides, you cant say taking a 5 hour train in the morning from London to Paris for business and then another 5 hour train ride on the way home beats taking a 1 hour flight for less, is better without being wrong.

Well you're a stupid jerk I already said the English Channel. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jibartik]

Not to mention there are airports every 45 minuets from each other and train stations are VASTLY more difficult to get to.

This nonsense where you say a train station is magically at your destination is stupid.

"i TOOKk A TrtaAIN to ColRADO for BUEISNESS froM WISConSON bEcAuSE i DiDNT wANT mY sUIT TO gET wRINKelD"

"I hAd To CheCK my SuIt TOO bEEcAUSE i COuLDNT tAKE thE cHANce IT wOUld GET wRINKlEd IN cARRy On"

You cant tell me you actually believe this?

FWIW I haven't checked a bag in like 10 years because I'm not a retard and if i do it's because i was traveling with my retarted kids.

Never in a million years would I think having a hard hat, a jump suit, and a pair of shoes means I cant use the caryon for a 1 day flight. SMH

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kyoto - tokyo by air:
Jetstar
1h 25m
Nonstop
from $38

You're both cherry-picking and comparing apples to oranges there: fruity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can take the 新幹線 to all sorts of places a plane won't take you, and it's awesome. The Japanese are leading the world in mass transit, plus their whole society is organized around it: it's hard to appreciate trains here when you don't get to see how awesome they are for daily life in places like Japan.

But honestly, otherwise, this is a rare thread where I mostly agree with you Jib: I live in California, and the whole the high-speed rail scheme was a scam from the beginning.

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're both cherry-picking and comparing apples to oranges there: fruity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can take the 新幹線 to all sorts of places a plane won't take you, and it's awesome. The Japanese are leading the world in mass transit, plus their whole society is organized around it: it's hard to appreciate trains here when you don't get to see how awesome they are for daily life in places like Japan.

But honestly, otherwise, this is a rare thread where I mostly agree with you Jib: I live in California, and the whole the high-speed rail scheme was a scam from the beginning.

Only a scam because cali does let you build anything if it harms a turtle or a fruitfly

The Japanese are smart, we are not. Cali, Texas, the east coast are easily population dense enough for rail to be a good idea

Doesn’t matter, stop subsidizing airlines and we’ll see what happens

[Jibartik]

You're both cherry-picking and comparing apples to oranges there: fruity

No I gogled "most traveled high speed rail in japan" and that is kyoto to tokyo

Then I checked ticket price of kyoto to tokyo

and then I did "flight from Kyoto to toyko.

I picked the top result from both of those searches.

So dont assume! you know the saying: Fruity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But honestly, otherwise, this is a rare thread where I mostly agree with you Jib: I live in California, and the whole the high-speed rail scheme was a scam from the beginning.

Yeah, Id love to be a type 2 civilization but we're just not there yet.

The only reasons we have goverment paid roads is because the ultra wealthy democrats that left the south after the civil war to head west during the agriboom wanted free roads because it was too costly for them to make them connect their farms and the stores themselves.

That's when the democrat party became the BIG goverment party (that it wasn't when it tried to succeed from the union during the civil war.)

Because the american system works this way, we can get those trains if like we had no GAS - and we "had to come up wth a way to get workers to work" but while we have a cheeper alternative, we wont be able to get it in the USA full stop. Especially after California proved that no amount of wealth and progressives can push that ball forward.