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View Poll Results: What's Next for P99?
Green 2.0 : new progression server that eventually merges into Green 1.0 45 24.19%
Purple 99 : VZ/TZ server race based pvp 31 16.67%
Wipe Red99 : peak players is 30 anyways, will increase ms by 0.1 on Green and Blue 18 9.68%
Merge Green 1.0 into Blue 92 49.46%
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Old 04-19-2022, 11:22 AM
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This was my Red experience too.
For sure. I could go into time after time that I had really shitty stuff happen to me while leveling my druid.

I used to park in random zones to med/take a break, and people would find me always, even in places where no one ever goes, some random warrior or rogue would appear and be attacking me, that just happened to be in PvP range. And of course people lied and said "oh we have alts camped in every zone" and pretend like they spend their time online just logging in random characters in every zone constantly that just so happens to match your level range. Mind you I don't have a level 60 on R99.

I was once running through Overthere, only person in the zone, and all of a sudden a gnome wizard appeared under me in the middle of the zone as I ran through and nuked me before I could get out of range. His reply was "I was bound right under you", really? In the middle of Overthere? In a zone that only had me in it? A short time later a level 1 messaged me and said some people use MQ (whatever the hell that is, some program I assume) to warp to players locations then logged off.

When I was in my early 40s I was killing HGs in Rathe and as always checking /who constantly, and noticed someone had zoned into Rathe (when in that zone I usually check /who just as fast as possible since I have plat on me) within at least a second or two of them zoning in, and only a few seconds after that the dark elf wizard found me back in one of the corners. Unless he had bard speed and track, there's no way he legit found me that quickly.

Luckily for me in every case by the wizard in OT I escaped alive, but it proves that people cheat with impunity on R99.
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Old 04-19-2022, 12:36 PM
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For sure. I could go into time after time that I had really shitty stuff happen to me while leveling my druid.

I used to park in random zones to med/take a break, and people would find me always, even in places where no one ever goes, some random warrior or rogue would appear and be attacking me, that just happened to be in PvP range. And of course people lied and said "oh we have alts camped in every zone" and pretend like they spend their time online just logging in random characters in every zone constantly that just so happens to match your level range. Mind you I don't have a level 60 on R99.

I was once running through Overthere, only person in the zone, and all of a sudden a gnome wizard appeared under me in the middle of the zone as I ran through and nuked me before I could get out of range. His reply was "I was bound right under you", really? In the middle of Overthere? In a zone that only had me in it? A short time later a level 1 messaged me and said some people use MQ (whatever the hell that is, some program I assume) to warp to players locations then logged off.

When I was in my early 40s I was killing HGs in Rathe and as always checking /who constantly, and noticed someone had zoned into Rathe (when in that zone I usually check /who just as fast as possible since I have plat on me) within at least a second or two of them zoning in, and only a few seconds after that the dark elf wizard found me back in one of the corners. Unless he had bard speed and track, there's no way he legit found me that quickly.

Luckily for me in every case by the wizard in OT I escaped alive, but it proves that people cheat with impunity on R99.
It is rather odd how non tracking classes somehow are always able to find you extremely quickly


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Old 04-18-2022, 08:55 PM
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I contemplated logging on my 56 necro and realized I didnt want to solo or group with warm bodies in KC so I played Starcraft 2 CoOp commanders instead. I saw there was a new season on Diablo 3 and almost made a barbarian.... but ultimately decided to watch Monday Night Raw instead (I'm surprisingly enjoying WWE since this last Wrestlemania).
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Old 04-18-2022, 09:54 PM
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The ability to shit box someone with PVP is the only real answer to games like EQ (else you end up with UNs and many pages of rules). However, I could not imagine playing EQ on a PVP server due to how time-consuming dying is.

If you respawned in whatever zone you died in or respawned fully equipped...I mean maybe then, but even so it would just be a grief fest.
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Old 04-18-2022, 10:24 PM
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The ability to shit box someone with PVP is the only real answer to games like EQ (else you end up with UNs and many pages of rules). However, I could not imagine playing EQ on a PVP server due to how time-consuming dying is.

If you respawned in whatever zone you died in or respawned fully equipped...I mean maybe then, but even so it would just be a grief fest.
Hence alts. Just log in a fresh character. Keep playing like u never died. Gg.
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Old 04-19-2022, 12:13 PM
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The de-leveling trick sounds nasty

When I playing in SZ I didn’t notice that as much but it was right when the server launched. I think there you only got a reward for killing someone within a certain level range of yourself. So what I saw people doing is rolling with a crew of lev 50+ friends who would debuff/disable the target and then lower it to as low of hp as they could without killing it, then their friend who is within the level range would get the killing blow
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Old 04-19-2022, 01:29 PM
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The de-leveling trick sounds nasty

When I playing in SZ I didn’t notice that as much but it was right when the server launched. I think there you only got a reward for killing someone within a certain level range of yourself. So what I saw people doing is rolling with a crew of lev 50+ friends who would debuff/disable the target and then lower it to as low of hp as they could without killing it, then their friend who is within the level range would get the killing blow
De-leveling back on Rallos let you keep all your gear and skill levels and abilities, and that was what made it OP. It was totally an exploit but also not against the rules so what can you do? A troll with level 50 regen, level 50 skills and level 50 endgame gear that de-leveled down to like 9 or 10 (I forget the ideal level to de-level to to pick on low levels) was literally unstoppable. I saw an entire zone of newbies in Nektulos on Rallos Zek try to beat down a single de-leveled troll and failed hilariously. Couldn't be hit in melee, couldn't be hit with spells, that rare time something did hit he just regenerated right back. So funny, so frustrating.

They did eventually change how de-leveling worked so you didn't become a living god.

Back then I may have made an argument that a de-leveled character running around untouchable in a zone could be considered zone disruption but I never bothered to. It wasn't as hilarious a zone disruption as Fansy on Sullon Zek but the effect was similar.
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Old 04-19-2022, 05:57 PM
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Those where good times before and after dlvl nerf. So many newbies then. It made it fun.

Nowadays there's no reason to be afraid of that.

People be lined to you at treants in SK or whatever because the good players know every camp and you aren't invised and aon'd.

It's still not that big of a deal.

I remember my mage duoing like 6 hrs undisturbed in hhk basement one day with a cool wood elf ranger who had very 1337 skills.

If you can't deal with a little 30mins disruption to your overmaximum pixel gains. You're going to have exactly the same problem on blue and green more often. With absolutely no alternatives. It's a very disingenuous excuse/assertion.

Red is chillllllll a f. Even when ur dying to pvp bros.

The only time its ever stressful is when u are stressful. To yourself. The pvpbro will still have a gud time.
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Old 04-19-2022, 07:13 PM
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I used to believe that Green should never merge with Blue due to the inordinate and inaccurate amount of non-classic rules in play by the staff. I understand why they made a lot of the rules, overpopulation at launch, yet none of those reasons stand the test of time any longer and should be reevaluated and rescinded.

The effect upon Blue was noticeable. Blue higher end camps opened up more and allowed for nice and casual farming. The low/mid level toons took a big hit throughout Norrath with that particular group of personnel being harder to find, thus diminishing the overall experience for everyone. (I can't tell you how many monks I see nowadays without a simple incoming message)

At this stage, I think Green should merge into Blue. The overall experience would benefit lower and middle level folks more, while providing more competition on the top tier side of the house for both raiders and farmers. Sure, things could get a little crowded but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

I'd still like to see an event where both servers could have an option to mirror their accounts to Red, minus platinum and the bank, for a temporary time period of perhaps a month or two to instantly populate that server with current toons from Green and Blue. This would be a fun enterprise and allow people to test their might against everyone else, both pvp knowledgeable and ignorant players, while providing a different perspective towards the game. Who knows, people may actually enjoy it, even if it's only temporary..
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Old 04-19-2022, 07:26 PM
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I used to believe that Green should never merge with Blue due to the inordinate and inaccurate amount of non-classic rules in play by the staff. I understand why they made a lot of the rules, overpopulation at launch, yet none of those reasons stand the test of time any longer and should be reevaluated and rescinded.

The effect upon Blue was noticeable. Blue higher end camps opened up more and allowed for nice and casual farming. The low/mid level toons took a big hit throughout Norrath with that particular group of personnel being harder to find, thus diminishing the overall experience for everyone. (I can't tell you how many monks I see nowadays without a simple incoming message)

At this stage, I think Green should merge into Blue. The overall experience would benefit lower and middle level folks more, while providing more competition on the top tier side of the house for both raiders and farmers. Sure, things could get a little crowded but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

I'd still like to see an event where both servers could have an option to mirror their accounts to Red, minus platinum and the bank, for a temporary time period of perhaps a month or two to instantly populate that server with current toons from Green and Blue. This would be a fun enterprise and allow people to test their might against everyone else, both pvp knowledgeable and ignorant players, while providing a different perspective towards the game. Who knows, people may actually enjoy it, even if it's only temporary..
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