50's SK Gear Advice

[Samoht]

It's just a lot of words that you're using to defend your position that Silken Cat-fur Girdle is better than Spider Fur Belt.

So many words to type and still be wring.

I feel sorry for you.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's just a lot of words that you're using to defend your position that Silken Cat-fur Girdle is better than Spider Fur Belt.

So many words to type and still be wring.

I feel sorry for you.

Why do you assume spider fur belt is better? you are trading 5 AC and 40 HP for 4 STR and 8 DEX. Both cases are honestly mostly irrelevant, but more STR and DEX will increase your kill speed, whereas 5AC and 40HP do nothing for you 99.9% of the time.

Right now my SK only loses somewhere around 1000 HP per mob when face tanking solo, and I have 2.8k HP self buffed. I am not sure where an extra 200 HP would help me. More damage and procs will increase my kill speed though[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you assume spider fur belt is better? you are trading 5 AC and 40 HP for 4 STR and 8 DEX. Both cases are honestly mostly irrelevant, but more STR and DEX will increase your kill speed, whereas 5AC and 40HP do nothing for you 99.9% of the time.

This is just so wrong that it's not even funny. There's no justifying your opinion at this point.

You should stop typing and find an easier game to play.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is just so wrong that it's not even funny. There's no justifying your opinion at this point.

You should stop typing and find an easier game to play.

You can't actually articulate any words to argue your point, you just throw insults. Clearly you have no idea how the game operates, and are unable to justify your opinions.

[Samoht]

My point is already articulated. HP is king. The consensus on everybody who came before you agrees. Look at you. You're arguing that 4 STR is a good investment. 4 STR is a negligible amount of STR. You're already over the STR soft cap. A STR buff from a druid or shaman would put you over 255, so that 4 STR is wasted, anyway.

You are out of your league here. I'm not obligated to explain the basics of this game to you, and you are obviously not a person who can learn them even if I tried.

So keep thinking that your 4 STR is better than 5 AC and 40 HP. Keep thinking the stats on your boots are well balanced.

I just hope I never have to play with you in game.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point is already articulated. HP is king. The consensus on everybody who came before you agrees. Look at you. You're arguing that 4 STR is a good investment. 4 STR is a negligible amount of STR. You're already over the STR soft cap. A STR buff from a druid or shaman would put you over 255, so that 4 STR is wasted, anyway.

You are out of your league here. I'm not obligated to explain the basics of this game to you, and you are obviously not a person who can learn them even if I tried.

So keep thinking that your 4 STR is better than 5 AC and 40 HP. Keep thinking the stats on your boots are well balanced.

I just hope I never have to play with you in game.

I can tell you from experience that in any normal solo/group situation, I am not losing more than 2000HP per encounter, unless something goes so horribly wrong and there is a wipe. We are NOT talking about raiding, which an SK should never do, and this thread is not about raiding to begin with.

In this situation, whether buffed or unbuffed, I am at least 800HP from dying at all times. Having 840HP vs 800HP makes no difference in that situation. However, my character is NOT DEX capped, even with Focus of Spirit + Mortal Deftness. This means I am slightly increasing my proc rate, as opposed to doing nothing.

Obviously STR gets easily maxed in a group, but we are talking about Solo + Group, not just Group[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Not everybody runs around with full buffs all the time when soloing. When you are no-where near dying (which is most of the time in solo or group scenarios), max HP is doing nothing for you.

If you or your group is consistently wiping, the issue is with what you are fighting and your group comp/skill level, not your max HP. If you are losing something like 90% of your total life in an encounter consistently, that is simply a high risk encounter to begin with, and you probably shouldn't do it if you don't want a high risk of death.

[Danth]

Two people with NTOV loot arguing about group content that both of them outgear. This is past absurd. I've done about all the group content there is to do in this game, most of it duo with the wife, and I have mainly Thurgadin-quality stuff.

I don't know why DSM thinks he needs to stack resists for group content, but I ignore resists almost entirely and it causes no issues. Stupid 40 second poison dots in Sebilis or the occasional Togur's landing or those 250 damage dragon AE's in west wastes don't matter enough to care about. Only time I put on MR gear outside raids is if I'm going to be fighting something that can charm. Might matter more if you're trying to gear to be a soloist but I can't imagine why you'd make a Shadow Knight if you wanted to mainly solo.

Not going to argue that stacking HP is "wrong" if you want to try to be the best raid tank you can be because it's the correct approach to that problem. That type of job plays against the strengths of the class to an extent, but only moderately--there are a lot of raids the knights can and do tank for. I approve, anyway, because I dislike the notion that a guild might bully a person into playing something he doesn't want to as opposed to what he does. Some guild invites me on my Shadow Knight, that's what I am, and I'm going to tell them to piss off if they ask me to log their stupid cleric bot.

For group stuff you want some focus on AC as well, especially if you're like me and receive a lot of torpors without necessarily always having a cleric around. Mitigating those hits down matters a lot when you're trying to out-heal something that hits for 400's or more and don't have a bunch of people at your back. If your idea of grouping is Karnor's trash then you could be wearing Crustacean and nobody would notice the difference. People do that every day.

Danth

[Danth]

Only weapons I'd want to gear DEX for are the epic or greenmist, and even then only if gearing as a specific solo build. In reality I don't gear for it, I just ask the wife to stack DEX and Focus and that takes care of that.

[Samoht]

144/170, blah blah blah. Now you're splitting hairs.

Fact of the matter is: DEX isn't as good as you think it is. The influence on procs is EXTREMELY low.

Proc rates are based on proc/min, which means slower weapons influence your procrate just as much because they have fewer swings per minute.

Also, think about why you're so focused on procs to begin with. Do you have a reason? Is the 100 damage from your welfare sword going to make or break you in a fight? You think the 29 damage from your vampiric embrace proc is going to be that big of an influence? But the 40 HP from spider fur belt isn't?

Look at you, you've managed to sucker me into explaining to you how this game works. It's such a shame you're not going to listen to a lick of it.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

144/170, blah blah blah. Now you're splitting hairs.

Fact of the matter is: DEX isn't as good as you think it is. The influence on procs is EXTREMELY low.

Proc rates are based on proc/min, which means slower weapons influence your procrate just as much because they have fewer swings per minute.

Also, think about why you're so focused on procs to begin with. Do you have a reason? Is the 100 damage from your welfare sword going to make or break you in a fight? You think the 29 damage from your vampiric embrace proc is going to be that big of an influence? But the 40 HP from spider fur belt isn't?

Look at you, you've managed to sucker me into explaining to you how this game works. It's such a shame you're not going to listen to a lick of it.

You still refuse to explain how 840HP vs 800HP from dying makes any difference at all. As I said before, neither Spider Fur Belt or Cat Fur Girdle are making much of a difference in the long run. I already said that lol. But a 1% increased chance of procing is still better than a 0% decreased chance of dying.

If 40 HP was the difference between life and death, you simply screwed up some how. It's a skill problem, not a gear problem.