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Old 11-23-2021, 07:52 PM
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There these silly manuals were they showed us how to shiv ppl walking past nonchalantly and in training the instructor just comes out of no where shiving u first if u don't have ur battle buddy there's no shiving him back or stopping the bleeding in time.

These "mass shootings" and terrorist attacks are amateur hour. And it depresses me people are so soft and weak.
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Old 11-23-2021, 07:54 PM
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Ya. You also can't stop people from smuggling, stealing or making them. Or IEDs. Fat lot gun laws do in shit tier countries or after a collapse or when those government rent cops swarm with tasers and lobotomize your free thinking ass.

At least this way they can't make it easier on their conscience. They have to kill us if we are armed. Take that away and it's even easier and more bloodless and less messy to disappear people in a psych ward.
I have the same opinion on non-lethals.
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Old 11-23-2021, 07:56 PM
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Most mass shooters are skinny little incel nerds wearing too much gear

A tackle to get them on the ground with 200lb me is going to be too disorienting to them to bring a gun in line. Then with adrenaline pumping I would be punching them in the head/face hard enough to break my own hands and not notice. Pretty sure I could kill them in less than 2 minutes of hits

But again, who knows how it would actually play out
Don't take the time to pummel the assailant if you are able to tackle them, immediately afterward assume control of the weapon, then slide it across the floor, or retreat and ascertain the weapons firing capability, either way put distance between them and the weapon as priority #1

after that if you need to further incapacitate them, you gotta be dynamic and violent. Fight dirty, pistol whip, groin, throat, eyes, doesn't matter if they are 5'4 or 6'10. You gotta stay in control of yourself too, if you black out and go all hulk smash, you might miss the draw of a secondary weapon, or other threats.

So... circling back to the run hide fight mantra for civvies. Probably best to just grab people while yelling Run!! or like pull a fire alarm or call 911, starting that call immediately with only, "Location" and the words: "Active Shooter" then drop the phone, leaving the line open and determine if where you are holed up is still safe.
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Old 11-23-2021, 07:58 PM
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I have the same opinion on non-lethals.
Ya u know what I mean.

I don't want to wantonly kill ppl or see ppl fucked up. Would prefer more gentle, less destructive ways of controlling people. Don't want cops in more harm way...

Yet this is how I feel about it. If civilization keeps falling non lethals won't make cops safer or their job easier anyway.

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Old 11-23-2021, 08:04 PM
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Steven Seagal is a fat douche, was never believable in any role i saw him play. I saw that show like once, and if a cop stopped me, and it was steven seagal, i would laugh and drive away.
I don't care for him much as a person either if he's willing to work with scum like Arpaio, but I do appreciate his extremely bizarre life

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Old 11-23-2021, 08:10 PM
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Don't take the time to pummel the assailant if you are able to tackle them, immediately afterward assume control of the weapon, then slide it across the floor, or retreat and ascertain the weapons firing capability, either way put distance between them and the weapon as priority #1

after that if you need to further incapacitate them, you gotta be dynamic and violent. Fight dirty, pistol whip, groin, throat, eyes, doesn't matter if they are 5'4 or 6'10. You gotta stay in control of yourself too, if you black out and go all hulk smash, you might miss the draw of a secondary weapon, or other threats.

So... circling back to the run hide fight mantra for civvies. Probably best to just grab people while yelling Run!! or like pull a fire alarm or call 911, starting that call immediately with only, "Location" and the words: "Active Shooter" then drop the phone, leaving the line open and determine if where you are holed up is still safe.
Most likely the gun is not gonna stay in their hands, considering I would only go for a tackle if I could rush from behind or an angle where they don’t see me. And if I’m going for a tackle, I’m spearing them. They would have to have an iron grip to keep that gun in their hands. After that, they gonna be too knocked out to go for a secondary weapon. Ground and pound all the way baby, and not wearing any gloves to soften the hits

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Old 11-23-2021, 08:53 PM
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Are you guys really talking about how you're gunna disarm an active shooter?

Why?

Sorry for starting this thread. MMA isn't real life.

Everyone should start carrying Pikes to take out the guys that carry Katanas.

The price of station wagons are gunna go up as the most convenient and cost effective way to drive around with your pikes.
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Old 11-23-2021, 08:55 PM
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I hope i won't ever have to, however i feel it prudent to consider how I would handle any sort of crisis situation. obviously these things are fluid, and details are impossible to know, but nonetheless worthy of a few minutes of ponder.

of course one should remember that no plan ever survives contact with the enemy.
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Old 11-23-2021, 08:56 PM
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Are you guys really talking about how you're gunna disarm an active shooter?

Why?

Sorry for starting this thread. MMA isn't real life.

Everyone should start carrying Pikes to take out the guys that carry Katanas.

The price of station wagons are gunna go up as the most convenient and cost effective way to drive around with your pikes.
Thats the spirit!

Spear, halbred, polarm, pike def best weapon of all times. Battleships r just like rly big floaty pikes.


Artillery a close second.
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Old 11-23-2021, 09:05 PM
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