P99 Open source

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have received word from on high. Sir Nilbog has blessed my work. Your Enchanter will be nerfed soon. I'm already graphing channeling equations to maximize your tears.

While tears false do
print ("your concerntration has been broken")
Wait (0.01)
End

[cd288]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have received word from on high. Sir Nilbog has blessed my work. Your Enchanter will be nerfed soon. I'm already graphing channeling equations to maximize your tears.

Except I never disagreed with you that channeling wasn’t classic on P99…

[azxten]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except I never disagreed with you that channeling wasn’t classic on P99…

I'm just messing with you but you did say that you thought staff said channeling can't be fixed because it's a client issue and you've adamantly fought against all bug reports involving Enchanters. Come on, you know.

And I'm yelled at when I post? Way to write a book. It's a game let's not forget that. If it's here great, if not who cares.

When 500ish words becomes a book the world is in trouble and it does seem the world is in trouble. You probably use Twitter too. It is a game, one I enjoy, and one I want to be able to continue to enjoy in the future. If you think this is a book you definitely wouldn't enjoy my last bug report on the bug report process. I can write like that and read content like that with ease, sorry you and many others can't but in most cases the subject matter would be beyond you anyway. I'm not going to Twitterfy my posts for dumb or uncaring people so they can more easily dismiss my ideas. Better that you just admit you can't or won't read it.

1. Create bug report to research issue.
2. Gather evidence and prove something isn't classic.
3. Propose code change per contribution guidelines and get ignored by developers.
4. Argue with other people on forums who are scared about getting nerfed.
5. Stand up server to validate potentially misleading claims from scared players due to still being ignored by developers.
6. Prove you were misled by randos on forum and have now wasted hours, day, weeks, eons of your time and are still being ignored by developers.
7. Create new bug report about the bug report process.
<-- You are here.
8. Get channeling nerfed.
9. Laugh as people can't level past 20 anymore because the game gets too difficult and the entire "raid scene" collapses simply due to a lack of high level players until people catch up in Velious.

Still progressing. Now it's in the staff's hands. Either P99 is trying to recreate classic and/or values community contribution to expedite that or it isn't. It's never too late to get things back on track and stop catering to care bear WoW raiders who want WoWQuest99 with the LawyerQuest expansion while lying to themselves that they're playing classic EQ.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just messing with you but you did say that you thought staff said channeling can't be fixed because it's a client issue and you've adamantly fought against all bug reports involving Enchanters. Come on, you know.

Yeah because you have no evidence of anything beyond channeling. And some people had said the client issue thing a couple years back when channeling was brought up so I figured they were correct. Maybe the devs have figured it out.

[azxten]

It is done...

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s....php?p=3395356

1. Create bug report to research issue.
2. Gather evidence and prove something isn't classic.
3. Propose code change per contribution guidelines and get ignored by developers.
4. Argue with other people on forums who are scared about getting nerfed.
5. Stand up server to validate potentially misleading claims from scared players due to still being ignored by developers.
6. Prove you were misled by randos on forum and have now wasted hours, day, weeks, eons of your time and are still being ignored by developers.
<-- You are here.
7. Create new bug report about the bug report process.
8. Get channeling nerfed.
9. Laugh as people can't level past 20 anymore because the game gets too difficult and the entire "raid scene" collapses simply due to a lack of high level players until people catch up in Velious.

[Jibartik]

Alright azxten well done! I dont know what you did but I am happy you did it!

[Fammaden]

ITT: plat farming enchanters terrified of losing their monthly rent money.

[mischief419]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would be cool if P99 open sourced their code and data to allow long standing issues to be resolved more effectively. As P99 was built on open source software it would be nice to give back to the community that built the emulator upon which the majority of functionality is based.

Yeah I mean - just because it's open source doesn't mean anyone will have access to push the code. Just do pull requests. I mean this is a free, unpaid volunteer project - it only makes sense to allow the community to contribute back. It's a win-win. There are pretty much no "secrets" and the ones that are secret, the community deducted already to about 99% accuracy to the point where it doesn't matter. Contributions and open src > cons.

It's ALREADY based on open source code anyway.

[mischief419]

...actually, it's GPL3 licensed. If you ask for the source code, they are supposed to pass it along: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.en.html

I was curious because I know there's no way Daybreak would MIT license the code - and if they ever wanted to use what was made as a template, they (or anyone - eg, this thread), could simply ask for src and it should theoretically be provided, according to GPL3.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by mischief419 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...actually, it's GPL3 licensed. If you ask for the source code, they are supposed to pass it along: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.en.html

I was curious because I know there's no way Daybreak would MIT license the code.

Holy crap, I never realized this. While R&N do not have to publish the database, they do have a legal obligation to publish the P99 source code, because it's based on a GPL3 project!

Any lawyer could take them to court over that contract breach if they don't remedy it.