Will be seeing less of me

[Bardp1999]

This is a great day for necromancers everywhere

[Buellen]

That is a whole lot of data.

Thank you Nilbog for the explanation

Looking forward to the changes.

[Detoxx]

Still amazing to me that P99 uses Takp as a baseline for what was classic on a server that was built with an entirely different code for Mac.

The coding was so bad for the live version of takp they couldn't even figure out how to implement a mouse wheel and Quarm literally never died because it was so broken and they couldn't, or didn't want to, fix it.

Yet here we are getting changes from their old logs that are not even close to classic. Pretty sad the little amount of work the devs here do now and just rely on a server that literally had nothing in common we with classic servers.

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still amazing to me that P99 uses Takp as a baseline for what was classic on a server that was built with an entirely different code for Mac.

The coding was so bad for the live version of takp they couldn't even figure out how to implement a mouse wheel and Quarm literally

lmao i deleted where i stopped reading with cringe.

miss you OP. come often!

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sad the little amount of work the devs here do now

Yeah man, totally. Green server appeared out of thin air and all the time-gated quests and item drops were adjusted by an autonomous AI.

What an asshat thing to say to the people that make this place possible.

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still amazing to me that P99 uses Takp as a baseline for what was classic on a server that was built with an entirely different code for Mac.

The coding was so bad for the live version of takp they couldn't even figure out how to implement a mouse wheel and Quarm literally never died because it was so broken and they couldn't, or didn't want to, fix it.

Yet here we are getting changes from their old logs that are not even close to classic. Pretty sad the little amount of work the devs here do now and just rely on a server that literally had nothing in common we with classic servers.

The research Torven did relies on parses and research taken on Live in 2003, not just on Mac server. There just wasn't much real parsing done before PoP era, I struggled to find any at all before Luclin. The tools and methods just weren't widely available and/or employed.

I agree with Torven as it happens. If you have hard data, you need to rely on hard data. Dev comments were so often wrong it isn't funny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Their code was a mess. Listen to this interview with Scott Hartsman where alovingrobot talks about bringing in a new hire systems designer, and from nowhere / experience in the game, he schools a Live dev about how his code actually works on his first day:

https://youtu.be/h3sSjPJ7Xf4?t=5027

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet here we are getting changes from their old logs that are not even close to classic. Pretty sad the little amount of work the devs here do now and just rely on a server that literally had nothing in common we with classic servers.

The reason is because usually when people try to make free emulated servers and they discover the users are dipshits like you say retarded things like this they just chose to ban everyone and lock the project like EQ classic.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still amazing to me that P99 uses Takp as a baseline for what was classic on a server that was built with an entirely different code for Mac.

The coding was so bad for the live version of takp they couldn't even figure out how to implement a mouse wheel and Quarm literally never died because it was so broken and they couldn't, or didn't want to, fix it.

Yet here we are getting changes from their old logs that are not even close to classic. Pretty sad the little amount of work the devs here do now and just rely on a server that literally had nothing in common we with classic servers.

Maybe true EqMac was far from classic, but it is still comparatively closer than a dev just pulling a guess out of their bum or referencing current live.

ie it’s the best source when no better sources are available. I’m fine with that.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe true EqMac was far from classic, but it is still comparatively closer than a dev just pulling a guess out of their bum or referencing current live.

ie it’s the best source when no better sources are available. I’m fine with that.

If I remember right Eqmac launch was a disaster for SOE. They were expecting thousands of players and got a few hundred. Lol.

Pearls before swine. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I remember right Eqmac launch was a disaster for SOE. They were expecting thousands of players and got a few hundred. Lol.

Pearls before swine. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it was lacking artistic merit, perhaps if Bono did the soundtrack.