Who else wants a new PvP server?

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is all on point. One thing I know that in kunark and velious live if you had 100mr it was very hard to root you and if it did land it would probably break pretty quick.

I think there will need to be resists adjusted for each era to keep casters in the game because when people start rolling with 200 resists a lot of spells have zero chance with OG resists. Yeah there were some good problems with red99 resists.

It also had a tiered pvp range that was a bit confusing
It also had exp loss from pvp death a griefers dream
It also had actual GM corruption amelinda that hurt the balance between Holocaust and nihilum right when they both needed to have a chance.

There were a lot of players in pre kunark it’s a real shame that our server tanked so bad. I think it should come back after green hits velious for like 6 months and people are wondering what’s next. Green was a big launch and it doesn’t make sense to distract from it yet. Let it become full blue and let pvp be the next modified semi custom timeline s server

Part of classic and vanilla EQ pvp is the way the resist system worked and twinking warrior alts to 'fight over zone control, hunt down that newbie twink with the fungi tunic'. People always had casters, but they were used more for farming, less for pvp, amiright?.

When itemloot was in it was double crazy to be wearing MR stuff and a no drop MR item was the most important thing you could get in the game.

When we make resists custom, people stray away from playing vanilla and go towards the slippery slope of wow customization.

I don't think we should try the same thing twice. I think if we are going to make a pvp server in the vain of green it should be as classic as possible. I missed out on the 1st 2 years of Rallos IRL because I was busy learning to be a good PvPer IRL. Would love a chance to get murdered in classic by 100 MR warriors wielding executioners axes and mith2h.

It also had a tiered pvp range that was a bit confusing
It also had exp loss from pvp death a griefers dream
It also had actual GM corruption amelinda that hurt the balance between Holocaust and nihilum right when they both needed to have a chance.

And YT.

The above items were to attract players with non-custom content. To make it 'not as bad' as old school. true vanilla.

And

when you hit kunark + velious with a melee alt with 120 MR, you are less likely to get griefed if all you can do is joust other melees and the casters gate, this makes group play (again the forte) of EQ pvp important.

EQ pvp isn't about 1 warrior and 1 wizard nobly squaring up. It is sometimes, but it's not the sole purpose of pvp. And an enchanter (arguably the most played alt for simply farming stuff and trolling) should lose every time against a skilled warrior unless its trainquest or pixeldenyquest and not pvp. If your war friend takes off his MR gear and faces you, well, thats player interaction, not game rules, and thats how that scenario played out when we were goofing around in lesser faydark at lvl 30.

Rock, paper, siscors.

Also, I never had to land roots to fight melees when I played on live. Warriors decked cheeply in throw away MR gear being practically un[blindable, rootable, stunable] is they're cherry for not having gate and bind affinity.

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As a cleric, let me simplify my position:

If I let my warrior tank, guard, friend die, I should have to gate if I can, not root a warrior and med to full right in front of him. I don't deserve a fair chance at a warrior as a cleric in close quarters combat. If I'm lucky I can DA and plug at the zone. That is classic. No one deserves kill text or YT on a two hundred MR player unless they pick up a sword, axe, or mace, and done some MR gear.

A classic server cannot be fixed with custom content. Or rules.

@gustoo, for classic velious I think you should level that ranger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(or you could check out custom velious, they are giving away 55 lvl characters, so your life doesn't have to end right away the minute you click 'enter world')

Truly custom servers will always draw more and different players because I think novelty, and newness are a bigger draw than nostalgia, but overtime I feel as pristine a classic recreation of rallos would grow to a substantial population size, 300... primetime, maybe 1000 unique players over the course of a year. Especially if it wasn't kneecapped by experimental stuff and IRL trolls (it needs a few of those, they are the spice of pvp life) but I digress.

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[Jazzy]

Would probably play a new fresh r99.

My body is almost ready

[Tassador]

2box should not be allowed without risk of getting your characters banned. The game would just be to easy for the neck beards who already have port boxes anyways... by allowing boxes terribads like rubbinghiszeros will still be struggling to 40 while tune would have 10+ level 50’s

The RoZ crews would have 8 man guilds going pretending they have the numbers just like they do when their hot flaming turds of versions come out.

[Larken]

The best option is to buy the code from Rogean and P99 team for the exclusive rights.
Then wipe the blue and green servers and only remain with 2 different PVP ruleset servers.

Sure, half the green/blue population would quit, but half would remain and there would be a healthy dose of 1K players left at least, divided between 2 different PVP servers.

The question is, what's Rogeans price for his work?

[Thulian]

Boxes are very easy to kill

[magnetaress]

The hitboxes are too large i think on here too. Making justing kinda sillywierd. But I think that was done to compensate for strange internet lag not ping related in 2020?

I should not be as good at jousting as I am I think.

[Gustoo]

1. No I am talking about wearing full droppable high risk resist gear. It was mithril arms and legs, velium bracers maybe, tranix crown if you could afford it, skull shaped barbute if you couldn't. 8sv all rings or 14mr rings or HP rings depending on what you needed more. DJarns ring for suicide pulling, ikky regen or rubi bp, a mistmoore shield probably, a runed bone fork, and a few other stuff I can't remember off the top of my dumb head.

I am talking about a level 10 rogue PK basically right now. It changes a lot as you level. At those low levels a lot of casters were PK's because a lot of targets were really soft.

Hit boxes are weird here because of our pretty bad netcode thats why its important to understand the actual game here and play it because its not the same, just a good replica.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. No I am talking about wearing full droppable high risk resist gear. It was mithril arms and legs, velium bracers maybe, tranix crown if you could afford it, skull shaped barbute if you couldn't. 8sv all rings or 14mr rings or HP rings depending on what you needed more. DJarns ring for suicide pulling, ikky regen or rubi bp, a mistmoore shield probably, a runed bone fork, and a few other stuff I can't remember off the top of my dumb head.

I am talking about a level 10 rogue PK basically right now. It changes a lot as you level. At those low levels a lot of casters were PK's because a lot of targets were really soft.

Hit boxes are weird here because of our pretty bad netcode thats why its important to understand the actual game here and play it because its not the same, just a good replica.

yes but (lots of yessbutt) will weird custom resists be worth it or would it destroy what you just illustrated so well?

You are liek, right and more accurately remember than I do.

I am OK with a rogue or warrior PK being bedeckled even in non-lootable tranix crowns. It takes a ton of effort to get them and if some pal wants to hand me one for the lulz OK, I may make a lvl 12 ranger named Wolferton Mcfurrious but I'm not tripin if my cleric gets nuked by someone else who made Mrwolfingten Mcfurrious first.

I can still defeat MxWolferoni on my High Elf paladin with pels at lvl 12 with basically the same archery skill and a good two hander.

It's super f'ing important to preserve classic on Project 1999 man so we can see this stuff in action.

RoZ and others already have (had) custom wow-like-resists-pels-interupts covered. Really well. We shouldn't interfere with that on Red99 or Orange99 or Purple99 or Teams99. Or Discord99. Trains99. Or whatever the staff would be willing to do.

I don't think Nilbog, or Rogean or any of the other devs, testers, good sourcers for classic stuff have any inclination or time to make a brand new game and custom box.

Would it be OK if they just copied green and ran an RZ patch timeline? (I would be immensely thrilled to hear about this).

[Jibartik]

just do whatever VZTZ did cus thats all anyone talks about.

Also, boxing is cancer.

[Ret.SaxonAlex]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just do whatever VZTZ did cus thats all anyone talks about.

Also, boxing is cancer.

I always imagine humans would just dominate but maybe if they still cant see in the dark it would be ok

maybe not if everyone knows they are the strongest and team up on them