30 minutes to reclaim a camp???

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[Ishio]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once again, after I arrived with my first group, they eventually left because YOUR group was trying to KS everything. It did not take anywhere near an hour and a half for the next group to form although, yes, they did die on the first pull because they didn't know what they were doing at first.

My group wasn't KSing, we were pulling OUR mobs. Sorry you couldn't see that, since all you were seeing was a loading screen.

It doesn't matter; that doesn't mean you're allowed to HAVE all 4 camps spots if another group arrives. Unless, again, at least one member from your party is in each of those spots and capable of holding it themselves.

You die, and then take an hour to regain a new group, you lose it. Sorry.

Nope. I did not demand any such thing or give you any grief at all. I suggested it ONCE, as a the wisest thing to do for all involved, and that was it. And, no, you did not give my group 2 whole rooms either. To reiterate once again, my group took on 1.5 of the camps (the 2 spawns in the small room and the 2 spawns on the right side of the larger open room). This amounted to my group having 20% of the mobs between all 4 camps and your group having 80%. So yet again the problem comes down to YOUR group being greedy, asinine spoiled brats who were mad about not getting to powerlevel as fast as they wanted to.

Spoiled brats being PL'd? Sorry, I must have missed the high level druid or monk in the zone pulling/dsing us. Oh right, there was only a necro taking on the bards/nobles. PLing wasn't happening. Don't be mad bro because I put together a group that doesn't fail. We didn't have 3 rangers, you the chanter, and a druid. We had a tank, heals, mez, and dps. My bad. We weren't being greedy, you guys obviously couldn't handle the "20%" given to you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, what are you talking about "we could have moved there"; we already were there...the problem I predicted was that your group would be pulling through the area where our mobs spawned, if you continued to camp where you were at.

If you were already there, why did my group continue to receive grief?

The GM may not have talked to you directly but they certain talked to the person who was directly KSing and then talked to everyone altogether. There is no literacy issue on my end all, rather you tried to go against the defined camps that were setup and tried to say that my group could only take 1 camp (the very smallest one) out of all 4. You are greedy and YOU didn't play according to the rules and you are mad that you had to share. Wah wah wah wah.

Wow, contradiction much? If I said the GM didn't talk to me and you agreed with me then turn around and said the GM later talked to me, you have terrible resources. The camps weren't set up any particular way. You QQ'd and wasted people's time, when you couldn't even hold yourself in a group when we shared the camp spot. And if my group was there first, we have every right to tell you which camp spots to take. Why should a well defined group give up great camp spots because you came in with a GM hammer behind you. So if I see you there in a group taking on all 4 spots, I can demand you give me the bigger camp sites? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said it does. Don't put words in my mouth. I explained exactly why I went AFK. Perhaps it is you who has the literacy issue.

Sorry, never put words into your mouth. Short term memory loss seems to be an issue. My bad.

[Verenity]

It's starting to seem like half of the replies to this thread should be moved to R&F since that's really all that's going on here... Great entertainment though

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Ishio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My group wasn't KSing, we were pulling OUR mobs. Sorry you couldn't see that, since all you were seeing was a loading screen.

They were NOT your mobs. Get over it and read the rules.

Originally Posted by Ishio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You die, and then take an hour to regain a new group, you lose it. Sorry.

#1) That's not what happened. We picked up immediately after the first death and, with instruction, there were no further problems. The problem was when two of my groups broke up because your group was KSing. Hence, me having to reform twice.

#2) When a group dies they only lose the spot they were camping if it was a single camp that someone else was waiting for. Your group was perfectly allowed to keep taking more pulls but as soon as a new group arrives, it goes right back to the rule of your group not being allowed to own 4 separate camps.

Originally Posted by Ishio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you were already there, why did my group continue to receive grief? The camps weren't set up any particular way.

Because your group continued to try and KS. Hence, the GM coming back yet again. And, yes, they were set up in a particular way.

Originally Posted by Ishio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if my group was there first, we have every right to tell you which camp spots to take. Why should a well defined group give up great camp spots because you came in with a GM hammer behind you. So if I see you there in a group taking on all 4 spots, I can demand you give me the bigger camp sites?

You have every right to tell another group which camp spots to take AFTER splitting them according to what your group is allowed to camp. You don't get to say "Okay, we'll let you have just those 2 spawns over there in the corner for your whole group and we'll take the other 14."

And this whole paragraph you wrote is BS because I never tried to take the "bigger camp sites" to begin with. Repeating now for the 3rd or 4th time: I requested what was by far the smallest camp in addition to half of the second-smallest camp. Which, again, amounted to a 20% to 80% split of the mobs between all 4 camps for my group in comparison to your group. I was ALLOWED to say I wanted the smallest camp and ALL of the second-smallest camp, as your group would have only been able to handle the 2 larger camps as defined by holding them with accordance to the rules, but I didn't even ask for that. I asked for LESS than I was allowed to camp and here you are still having a huge fit about being forced to share.

[Bruno]

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Zuranthium = forum gold

[Ishio]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have every right to tell another group which camp spots to take AFTER splitting them according to what your group is allowed to camp. You don't get to say "Okay, we'll let you have just those 2 spawns over there in the corner for your whole group and we'll take the other 14."
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I don't have to split anything down the middle. Otherwise we run into pathing issues. I gave you the right side of the post. Your group obviously couldn't handle any more than that. We took the "14" because my group could handle it, ontop of which our average level was much higher than yours. You guys wiped on a level 24 mob. We didn't wipe when taking out warriors with me healing without Greater Healing.

I'm done arguing with you.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Ishio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't have to split anything down the middle.

You have to split them according to the rules and it seems like you still don't understand them. The rules states my group was allowed 2 of the 4 camps. It would make sense then that you would want the bigger camps. Thus, I suggested that my group take the smallest camp and then only half of the second-smallest camp. How many more times must it be said? I was requesting less than I was allowed and your group refused to share as per the rules and had to be forced to by a GM, multiple times, plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Ishio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys wiped on a level 24 mob.

A couple people died, once, because they were sitting in spawn points where they shouldn't have been without even having all their spells memmed and then aggro-ed 2 of them. Your group also wiped during the day, shortly after I arrived...at which point in time the Monk in your group (who was responsible for a lot of the KSing) said "this is still my group's camp because I'm still here and we have 30 minutes to take all of the camps back for ourselves." Which of course was completely wrong not only for all of the reasons I've posted but also because of this very forum and game-wide announcement right here.

[Darwoth]

its threads like this that make me laugh my ass off and wonder how anyone could ever play on a pve server anything.

[Zuranthium]

Well on a bright note, Ishio and I duo-ed today (in HHK) and there wasn't a single argument between us! I enjoyed it very much and would like to play with him/her again. Enchanter + Druid is one of my favorite duos for the low/mid levels and I've been using it frequently. Those 2 classes together can take on pretty much anything themselves at this point in the game.