[RANT] Why Red 2.0 would suck even if it ever happened

[magnetaress]

I'm fine getting rolled into blue with my red chars, if it means I can play a new red and my blue alts will be there. I enjoy leveling on red. Don't enjoy blues atmosphere. But its ok if my characters went there to make room for a fresh adventure.

Really don't want to relevel them, but it'd be fun on a new classic red99 hopefully even, vanilla server with lots of banded and rawhide.

I agree. The vastness of EQ is intended to be immense and untouchable. Velious dragons staying up eternally isn't at all immersion breaking to me.

The META of full BIS loots is odd to me personally. But I can also see why people put in the efforts for it. I would if I could too.

[magnetaress]

Bards are supposed to be spies and agents of veeshan. So it stands to reason they'd infiltrate everything everywhere.

I bet a lot of bards got the mask just to RP evil.

[Dulu]

Originally Posted by Jeni [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Clueless enforcement of server rules will always be a thing because none of the GMs know what a PvP server is or willing to take the time to find out.

I'll spell it out for GMs in an attempt to help them understand. City of Mist is a zone, a guild will gravity flux all members besides the bard to unreachable locations. The bard then power levels hundreds of new alts that your guild will have to fight. The bard moves fast, you can't kill a fast bard, so you attempt to slow him down, the entire zone worth of mobs catch him and he dies, you get a two week suspension or more for PvP'ing a bard.

Alternatively your other option is to tuck your tail and follow stupid rules enforced by people who have never played on a PvP server and the enemy levels unlimited alts for you to fight but you can't even pvp them while they are leveling and then lose raid targets to a clearly very fun and engaging PvP playstyle.

The correct solution for a PVP server is and you might have guessed it but it's actually PvP! You and your guild PvP for zone control to allow your bard to safely power level your guild and have other guild members ready to help you defend so you can maintain zone control. Swarming 5+ characters constantly should carry risks.

On red the exp is so fast no one cares about an exp death outside of griefing noobs but everyone gets hard when they can convince some GM to ban the competition for 2 weeks + for no reason.

This is absolutely true.

It's like when Israel sent assassins a few weeks ago to kill that Iranian "scientist" in broad daylight. Yes - he may be a peaceful scientist, going about his day, but he's ultimately a weapon of war.

The bard is "Just PVE'ing", which would fall under protection to an ill informed GM, much like the scientist is a "civilian", but they are both fair game in my eyes.

[Ret.SaxonAlex]

The best thing to do on a fan developed community in which limitations of change are minimal is to just not try to enforce to many pvp rules unless its loot and scoot and hope the community doesn't abuse it. And only try to enforce the most severe of infractions such as intentional trains. Rooting a bard stealing all of your mobs to farm on an enemy guild should not apply. But that would be in a perfect universe. Its hard to tell people, "I dunno man, just dont be a dick."

Like but not exactly like, sparring practice. In sparring, not always necessary to knock each other out. Sometimes going medium speed is good, in order to allow more training to become better warriors. Rather than be one great warrior in one fight and never fight again and then never become a better warrior.