PVP Battle - SK vs Paladin

[Gustoo]

That is super savage and is the kinda thing that would explode me if I jumped into pvp today and I would just not understand why I got so wrecked lol

Good to know.

[Jeni]

The following is for Velious: Pre Velious paladin's are not that strong outside of Soulfires.

I wasn't the most geared Paladin around but it felt like the fight that would just go on forever. I had roughly 2.4k mana on Brick which translates to about 7700 healing in hots not including any extra 5th ticks. Someone would have to do roughly 14,000 hp worth of damage to run me OOM / blow my lay on hands. If we completely ignore soulfires for this that is still a lot of damage to do.

I was able to chase off a ToV geared empire sk using the Vulak Axe with just my Kunark rags / epic by just popping a DS pot / (Ragefire / Ring) DS and curing all their diseases with shield. Add in a clarity for an even more annoying fight where every point of mana translates to roughly ~3-4 hp. I think I ended this fight with nearly full mana before the SK escaped into Skyshrine to camp out.

I think I would have to agree with Tune though in most scenarios the SK should be favored. The Paladin really needs to be able to constantly land hits to counter the SK's regen and paladin's aren't exactly known for their DPS.

[Tune]

im not trying to build up sk that much they are just normally more useful

toe to toe slugfest with CE and all the pally heals and abilities they win pretty easy unless they are HEAVILY outgeared, and i mean kunark vs bis velious

[Gustoo]

Man I really appreciate when you guys weigh in like this. I know the server has been light but the knowledge sharing is treasured gold and also something fun to think about while at work.

Jeni regarding the bow thing, I think the issue is that the super duper slow delay of the weighted axe has an significant impact on the bow damage right now, and a paladin can't use that axe because its for the big boys only.

It would have been cool (and appropriate) if dwarfs were considered large race when it comes to things like throwing boulders, and weighted axes. But oh well.

[Jeni]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Man I really appreciate when you guys weigh in like this. I know the server has been light but the knowledge sharing is treasured gold and also something fun to think about while at work.

Jeni regarding the bow thing, I think the issue is that the super duper slow delay of the weighted axe has an significant impact on the bow damage right now, and a paladin can't use that axe because its for the big boys only.

It would have been cool (and appropriate) if dwarfs were considered large race when it comes to things like throwing boulders, and weighted axes. But oh well.

I get it now i thought it was just weapon damage and not the weapon 2h bonus damage... thats hilariously broken. Yeah the slowest reasonable weapon a paladin has access to is a 51/53 Blackstone Maul or a Tantor's Tusk but it's stupid rare on p99 for no reason.

I do wonder if outside of this bug if the Chardok 2h damage bonus update made paladins a lot better since they may actually be able to do some damage now and not just slowly tickle people to death while living forever. I haven't played in years so I'm way out of the loop on the current state of stuff.

[Kief]

salem kicked some serious ass on master blaster....i swore he named him after the stevie wonder track that's lit but he said no. he dropd sk's on his pally. even with the bow shit id still give it to a pally over sk and i had like 1000 pks on sk's. just depends on the player

[Kief]

ps lmao at tunes bug report bcuz of this thread <3 u dude lol

[magnetaress]

Paladins make up for low str by being the good guys and not being ogres.

I guess a pro ogre player that didn't become soft and lazy for their slight advantage would have the upper hand.

But you can't ever underestimate a paladin or elf who truly believes in themselves and their cause. I have seen, and been the elf winning against trolls and ogres, despite overwhelming odds and gear, class advantages.

Got both troll and ogre sk and war kills under my belt in vanilla and kunark. So it's clearly possible. Never underestimate your own skill and determination. Good overcomes evil in Everquest.

[Thulian]

Pre pop SK Post pop Pal, not even close

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Thulian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pre pop SK Post pop Pal, not even close

You got this backwards. Try equivalent gear. No gimmicks, arena death match.

How will the sk win? Hiding with invis and trying to meditate for lifetaps?

I killed an sk on my ranger. With the crappiest of gear and points in AGI. They even had the benefit of IVU and unrest castle, but they pressed the attack on the ZL thinking they had me.

Honestly think a paladin will have the easiest go.