The Corona Perspective Some of You Seem to lack

[Castle2.0]

"You make stuff up. I don't."

Noted.

Wear a mask, be a good citizen, be a good neighbor, make our country great!

I can't. Those sound like logical arguments but "reality is illogical."

Can you answer the simple question?

If you do support forced-masks and forced-lockdowns for COVID, why didn't you support them for flu? Could we not cut down the 600,000 annual deaths by a significant factor using these measures? If so, why not use them?

P.S. Pretzel, feel free to share if you have an answer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jibartik]

No im not trying to convince you of false numbers, are you are using false numbrs to try to convince me of stuff that you're very clearly making up ITT. You claim to read the minds of people who disagree with you.

Covid is preventable, it can be prevented.

Stop trying to use your made up 600k number that takes every single ellement of earth out of context, to win an argument.

I could just as easily pick a 250k deaths by flu year to say the flu klls 250k people a year.

The flu killing 200-600k people per year does not average 600k people. Ergo, your data is false and makes your arguments irrelevant.

Note that please. NOTE IT, everyone.

[Toad1]

covid cannot be prevented, we have no measure to control it

even disenfection is a big joke because half of the companies that sprung up have ineffective products and successful application is impossible and its too easy to contaminate even if successfully sanitized

masks do nothing

people are too dumb and completely dependant on getting their food from stores / plants and cant stay home anyway

the only hope is herd immunity, everyone has to get it at the same time

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Toad1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

covid cannot be prevented, we have no measure to control it

This is incorrect.

If this were true you would be dead of ebola.

Containing virus's and disease is a very simple concept.

There are examples of this happening right now all around you.

masks do nothing

Masks do more than literally anything else anyone suggests. So of all positions you can have, this is the most wrong you can be.

people are too dumb and completely dependant on getting their food from stores / plants and cant stay home anyway

No people are not too weak to handle a pandmeic rationally.

Wrong, you're just being a troll, and trump encourages people like you to speak up.

the only hope is herd immunity, everyone has to get it at the same time

The only reason you even know that is because people heard someone on fox new say it.

The truth is heard immunity does not mean everyone just "get it" and we let god sort it out. Thats idiocy. That is not "heard immunity" FFS

its so frustreating to listen to people who listen to fox news talk about stuff like they know everyting and if you dont lsiten to fox news please know you are parroting their clearly false information and no other media outlet except for some facebook shares agree's.

AND THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS A LIBERAL CONSPIRACY

[Toad1]

ebola is no where near as contageous as covid

your symptoms appear much faster and you wont be able to give it to others for 2 weeks and not know you have it, which is why we have a covid problem

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Toad1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ebola is no where near as contageous as covid

your symptoms appear much faster and you wont be able to give it to others for 2 weeks and not know you have it, which is why we have a covid problem

Dude canada has 90% the infection and death rate, and that isnt because florida and north carolina have such an active worldwide economy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Toad1]

so 90% of the people in canada have died from covid?

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Toad1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so 90% of the people in canada have died from covid?

No. Sigh.

Ebola is a virus that is contained. That means that had we not contained it each time it breaks out it would spread all over the world.

Youll have the flu in 2025 but you wont have covid. It will die, like the spanish flu. Influenza is what you're thinking of and that mutates every year, like the cold, something covid is similar to but not the same exactly. But covid can be contained, we could have contained it (see nz for an almost perfect containment) and we could have at very least saved lives.

Ebola is well known in referece to containment, becase it's where we developed most of the modern practices. We even have a breakout that has been under containment for like 10 years. Which is why its a great example when it comes to containment practices. Covid, like many other viruses that exist on the 4th floor of the CDC basement are also "contained" and if you think we cant contain covid, you're being willfully ignorant. Of not only history, but the world around you, because compared to america, we could have contained 90% of our deaths and illnesses had it not been for trump encouraging people to go out and act like you are posting.

Edit: There are nations all over the world with no reported cases for recent weeks and a couple, months. That could have been us. But instead, we're entierly unique witht he highest infecton/death rate of any developed nation, and far higher than most 3rd world ones. It's pathetic.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No im not trying to convince you of false numbers, are you are using false numbrs to try to convince me of stuff that you're very clearly making up ITT. You claim to read the minds of people who disagree with you.

Covid is preventable, it can be prevented.

Stop trying to use your made up 600k number that takes every single ellement of earth out of context, to win an argument.

I could just as easily pick a 250k deaths by flu year to say the flu klls 250k people a year.

The flu killing 200-600k people per year does not average 600k people. Ergo, your data is false and makes your arguments irrelevant.

Note that please. NOTE IT, everyone.

The point is obviously that we do not respond to flu in this way, yet we are responding to covid in this way, when they have nearly identical fatality rates. Why, specifically, should we enforce masking (and I would also argue paranoid overzealous lockdowns, given the numerous collateral downsides of such lockdowns) for covid but not for the flu? The point of this question is to get you to interrogate your own logic. It's almost rhetorical but not quite. Pointing out that some number isn't the right number doesn't answer the question.

[Jibartik]

It is flatly wrong to say there is nearly identical death rates.