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Old 09-02-2020, 11:56 PM
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Old 09-03-2020, 01:54 AM
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The great irony with dumbs is that the supply and demand issue with racists\nazis\fascists is a direct allegory of a basic capitalist architecture. Shit, we're running out of racists, things seem pretty good. Let's pretend people that aren't racists actually are so we can keep this gravy train rolling
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:06 AM
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The great irony with dumbs is that the supply and demand issue with racists\nazis\fascists is a direct allegory of a basic capitalist architecture. Shit, we're running out of racists, things seem pretty good. Let's pretend people that aren't racists actually are so we can keep this gravy train rolling
agreed, op. its an important insight that a person's ideology is informed by their material conditions. as you correctly point out, with capitalism failing, material conditions decline and the "supply" of privileges to the privileged classes recedes. these privileged classes then "react" to the loss, creating a "demand" for ideological fascism and nazism, which drives up the "supply" of fascists and nazis.
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:19 AM
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agreed, op. its an important insight that a person's ideology is informed by their material conditions. as you correctly point out, with capitalism failing, material conditions decline and the "supply" of privileges to the privileged classes recedes. these privileged classes then "react" to the loss, creating a "demand" for ideological fascism and nazism, which drives up the "supply" of fascists and nazis.
I really can't decipher this right now man
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Old 09-03-2020, 08:52 AM
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agreed, op. its an important insight that a person's ideology is informed by their material conditions
No, a person's material conditions are formed by their ideology.

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And if you look at the mental/emotional/moral/spiritual (whatever word floats your boat) condition of the United States it is easy to see that the spiritual collapse has occurred first and is the driving force. Marxism is for useful idiots.
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Old 09-03-2020, 10:21 AM
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No, a person's material conditions are formed by their ideology.



And if you look at the mental/emotional/moral/spiritual (whatever word floats your boat) condition of the United States it is easy to see that the spiritual collapse has occurred first and is the driving force. Marxism is for useful idiots.

Lol yup. Smoothbrain leftists never see the long game, and always think theyre the ones that are going to get more power under the pendulum swing, but it never happens because their losers through and through, and socialized labour has no place for a do-nothing skittle-haired freak who spends his days juggling cocks between his mouth and asshole.

Communism is for maximizing the profitability of the WORKING class, while minimizing the liability that stems from having to pay them for said work. The prize and reward of a successful communist coup is redirecting the profit that is intercepted by the bourgeoisie and centralizing it in the hands of the political rulung class.
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Old 09-03-2020, 10:31 AM
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Communism is for maximizing the profitability of the WORKING class, while minimizing the liability that stems from having to pay them for said work. The prize and reward of a successful communist coup is replacing the profit that is intercepted by the bourgeoisie and centralizing it in the hands of the political rulung class.
How is this not happening right now in the US? Politicians are constantly enriching themselves up while ordinary people had to wait for paltry handouts during covid no? Then, when their profits were drying up the politicians and the CEOs wanted ordinary people to get back to work and school, while there's a pandemic. Like you can keep calling these "leftists" in these threads all the names you want, but if you don't even understand how fucked the average person in the US is, you're worthy of pity.
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Old 09-03-2020, 11:10 AM
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Communism is for maximizing the profitability of the WORKING class, while minimizing the liability that stems from having to pay them for said work. The prize and reward of a successful communist coup is redirecting the profit that is intercepted by the bourgeoisie and centralizing it in the hands of the political rulung class.
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Old 09-04-2020, 09:42 PM
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No, a person's material conditions are formed by their ideology.



And if you look at the mental/emotional/moral/spiritual (whatever word floats your boat) condition of the United States it is easy to see that the spiritual collapse has occurred first and is the driving force. Marxism is for useful idiots.
Thanks for sharing the link, I remember seeing the video years ago but had forgotten the name of the guy. But even at the time I remember thinking of how prevalent it was at the time, and now its down right frightening how real it is.

Decided to read through the comments though and one in particular stuck with me and pretty much perfectly sums up how I feel about the current situation.

"I first watched this interview (the full 90 minutes) years ago, maybe 2011 or 2012, but it still shocked me how rapidly things were deteriorating. When shit started to hit the fan in 2020 with the pandemic, I was worried about how the year would play out, and knew we'd never go back to the way things were before. Then that video of George Floyd's death exploded, and the US seems to be on the precipice of outright civil war. As of early July it's a relatively small faction of the far left in fairly open revolt, but the frightening thing is that almost nobody seems to realize what's happening.

I've found several people who share my feeling that this shitstorm feels premature - I think the ideological subversion hasn't quite permeated deeply enough yet to reach the critical mass, and the pandemic & economic crisis seems to have blown this brewing revolution into the open before it was ready to happen organically. Might sound crazy to say this in the current moment, but I think we should probably count ourselves fortunate this is happening the way it is now. I think we stand a much better chance of surviving it than we would if it had been able to stew another 10 years or so before blowing open."
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Old 09-03-2020, 07:31 AM
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He is using bad grammar and syntax to make himself feel high iq. Hes trying to say that because capitalism is failing, there are more poor Nazis.

Its wrong on many fronts. The Nazis are imagined. The capitalism failing is imagined(if there ever was capitalism). The Nazis becoming poor is imagined. His brain is lumpy and he is obese.
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