Approaching peak Orwell

[Snortles Chortles]

they are equally cringe tier posters

[Lojik]

I think a lot of it is just very easy for social media to influence peoples thoughts with likes or up votes or whatever. We're bombarded by information and lots of people out of work and probably not well mentally. What some people might perceive as the current "public opinion" on a topic can change so damn fast, and the things that are actually effective at changing peoples opinions on things are things that shouldn't, at least if that person wants to have an informed opinion about something. Probably like 1 percent of people actually form opinions on current topics with any sense of diligence.

[DoodyLich666]

It definitely does seem like we seem to be headed toward a brave new world/1984 hybrid. It’s some weird shit.

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by DoodyLich666 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It definitely does seem like we seem to be headed toward a brave new world/1984 hybrid. It’s some weird shit.

There's more dystopias than four - it's a veritable feast if you let your imagination go.

Still if one is going to assign a reasonable probability to all possible dystopian futures, I think it's Post-Nuclear Holocaust Society 90% and everything else put together 10%. North Korea might nuke South Korea. We might have to nuke North Korea. China might nuke us. India could nuke China. Pakistan might nuke India. Russia could nuke like eight different people. The we nuke whoever is left, Great Britain and France for sure, also Iran. I'm assuming Israel nukes the entire Middle East and also Berlin for good measure and then nukes themselves.

If anything you're going to be scavenging gasoline in the wasteland. That's the most probable future. It won't matter if you're woke or what your definition of racist is because your life is going to be Fallout 1,2, and 3 (Not 4 of course because it sucked and also Boston sucks, go Yankees!)

Or if you're on a budget, Damnation Alley by Roger Zelazny.

[Secrets]

"Black Lives Matter" is a valid statement. It's something everyone can agree on. It doesn't mean they are superior to other lives, nor lesser than others. It means you treat one person of a specific peripheral construct (race) as the same as another peripheral construct.

Anyone arguing anything other than that (ie; All Lives Matter, Blue Lives Matter, etc.) means that you support the systematic destruction of a particular group of people that you visually see as inferior based on <attribute here>. You can't say "All Lives Matter" and then kill the fly that accidentally landed on your monitor that's 'annoying you' - the fly has a life too. Bedbugs? Yup, can't kill those, as all lives matter. Those attracted to children? Yeah, can't treat them any different. 'All Lives Matter', right?

Cops are not a race. They're a profession you pick much later in life. You can't look at a cop out of the womb and say "Yeah, this dude's gonna be a cop."

They are a social construct, not one based on your sense of vision. They are based on emotion to a society founded on rules. Society once existed without officers, laws, and political biases. The only thing that hasn't changed is that black individuals are black and still systematically oppressed for centuries.

So instead of being racist, sexist, or whatever -ist, how about propping up the people you are close to and know need help, regardless of the way they were born? After all, we can't judge books by their cover.

Actions speak louder than sitting here on this EverQuest forum saying about how you'll do something instead of actually getting involved and doing your part to make sure it ends.

I personally took it upon myself on multiple occasions and sat with people one-on-one that I care about, and helped them get on their feet, expecting nothing in return. Can you say you've done the same, or have you just posted on message boards and social media about how 'people need to do it' - well, guess what, you are a person. Stop preaching to the choir and start making better choices.

[Vanin]

So ALM is racist if we don't subtract bugs? As someone who has found ants to be fascinating their whole life I find this to be offensive.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by Vanin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So ALM is racist if we don't subtract bugs? As someone who has found ants to be fascinating their whole life I find this to be offensive.

ALM isn't inherently racist, it's dismissive, it's a retort that doesn't mean anything. BLM has an implicit "Too" at the end--Black Lives Matter Too.

If you sat down for dinner with your family and everyone gets a meal except you, and you say "Hey I need food", and someone responds "Everyone needs food". They're not wrong, but they're not being fuckin helpful either because you still don't have any food.

[Nilstoniakrath]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BLM has an implicit "Too" at the end--Black Lives Matter Too.

What I hear is "Black Lives Matter More". That is totally racist. F the implicit BS, add "Too" to the slogan if that is what it is supposed to mean.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Nilstoniakrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I hear is "Black Lives Matter More". That is totally racist. F the implicit BS, add "Too" to the slogan if that is what it is supposed to mean.

I think BLM2 is being saved for the sequel next decade.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Black Lives Matter" is a valid statement. It's something everyone can agree on. It doesn't mean they are superior to other lives, nor lesser than others. It means you treat one person of a specific peripheral construct (race) as the same as another peripheral construct.

Anyone arguing anything other than that (ie; All Lives Matter, Blue Lives Matter, etc.) means that you support the systematic destruction of a particular group of people that you visually see as inferior based on <attribute here>. You can't say "All Lives Matter" and then kill the fly that accidentally landed on your monitor that's 'annoying you' - the fly has a life too. Bedbugs? Yup, can't kill those, as all lives matter. Those attracted to children? Yeah, can't treat them any different. 'All Lives Matter', right?

Cops are not a race. They're a profession you pick much later in life. You can't look at a cop out of the womb and say "Yeah, this dude's gonna be a cop."

They are a social construct, not one based on your sense of vision. They are based on emotion to a society founded on rules. Society once existed without officers, laws, and political biases. The only thing that hasn't changed is that black individuals are black and still systematically oppressed for centuries.

So instead of being racist, sexist, or whatever -ist, how about propping up the people you are close to and know need help, regardless of the way they were born? After all, we can't judge books by their cover.

Actions speak louder than sitting here on this EverQuest forum saying about how you'll do something instead of actually getting involved and doing your part to make sure it ends.

I personally took it upon myself on multiple occasions and sat with people one-on-one that I care about, and helped them get on their feet, expecting nothing in return. Can you say you've done the same, or have you just posted on message boards and social media about how 'people need to do it' - well, guess what, you are a person. Stop preaching to the choir and start making better choices.

Humans will by and large tend to associate and agree with people they feel are similar to them, and the easiest way to associate is by looks. Skin color stands out the most, so most people of a certain race will tend to sympathize with a message coming from people of the same race. We do it with lots of things besides race too, by profession, hobby, where you're from, and what political party you support. That's why good salesmen will try and find a way to "relate" to you by trying to find a connection (either real or fake.) In politics people will sympathize more with their respective voter base (or who they think is their voter base.) If you're liberal and I talk about uneducated racist white people, you're more likely to want to view them with disdain rather than sympathy, while viewing poor racist black people as simply misguided. The right does this too, claiming poor black people are thugs and all the black communitys problems are their own doing, which is false. I think a fear a lot of americans have with the BLM movement is that these different expectations are going to be upheld as the mainstream, acceptable view. If you look just at the NFL, Drew Brees said "I will never agree with someone kneeling for the flag." His own team mates called him out instantly, stopped following him on IG or whatever. Probably like 1/2 the leagues players specifically called him out. Meanwhile DeSean Jackson posts "hitler was right" with some fake hitler quotes, and it took probably at least a day for any current player to call him out. I think maybe 5-10 players have called him out specifically at all, most people just saying "we can't accept any sort of hate" without specifying the incident at all. They're basically "all lives mattering" this situation, it's a joke. You can pretty easily say that "they don't represent the majority of the BLM movement" which is true, and that leads to my next point.

BLM is, at the moment, a pretty decentralized movement. That can be good for the movement but also bad. In todays political climate if there's a clear leader then it's easy to point to a figurehead and say "those are the policies this group supports." BLM doesn't really have this, except for when ultra conservaties will point to their "leaders" being trained marxists or something. The "movement" is difficult to criticize at the moment, because it's not really clear what policies they support. At the same time the organization will lack direction due to leadership. Look at what's happened politically, and I really don't think much of what's happened will have a positive impact on black lives much.