Green Class Distribution

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whoa. You were literally talking about the year 1999

Yeah...and you suddenly shifted to talking about a different timeframe and then made a post which seemed to infer that 1999 EQ constitutes "the majority of 2 years". Maybe you're talking about something else entirely, but why? I was talking about what the first 7 months of actual 1999 Everquest looked like, aka the amount of time that has passed on Green 99.

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then I and any one else can safely dismiss you as being a loony on this entry alone: 05. Druid (plenty of nature lovers, very well rounded skillset)

Huh? Heals, Snare, Root, Damage Shield, Teleports, SoW, good Direct Damage spells. That alone made for a versatile and effective character in 1999, and then throw in Animal Charms, Tracking, Harmony (which most players hilariously didn't even know the function of throughout much of 1999), and the fact that for much of 1999 DoT's were doing full damage to moving foes and one of the Druid DoT lines was nearly unresistible, allowing them to solo red con mobs via kiting.

You're the one who doesn't seem to have a proper knowledge base, but anyway, maybe you're just communicating confusingly again here and only trying to say that listing Druid as #5 is too low? I don't think so, because the classes I listed higher had more mass appeal for people newer to the game and it's really what I remember more of back in those early days. Druids started gaining more popularity after tales of them kiting red cons began spreading (although it was nerfed shortly thereafter) and as more people learned about them being a great class for the casual gamer.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah...and you suddenly shifted to talking about a different timeframe and then made a post which seemed to infer that 1999 EQ constitutes "the majority of 2 years". Maybe you're talking about something else entirely, but why? I was talking about what the first 7 months of actual 1999 Everquest looked like, aka the amount of time that has passed on Green 99.

I tried to make sense of the senseless(aka your "list"). I assumed you meant some kind of "average" population over the entire era p99 tries to encapsulate.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're the one who doesn't seem to have a proper knowledge base, but anyway, maybe you're just communicating confusingly again here and only trying to say that listing Druid as #5 is too low? I don't think so, because the classes I listed higher had more mass appeal for people newer to the game and it's really what I remember more of back in those early days. Druids started gaining more popularity after tales of them kiting red cons began spreading (although it was nerfed shortly thereafter) and as more people learned about them being a great class for the casual gamer.

All it took was for shamans to start hitting 9 and druids 14 for druid's stock to start massively rising. Few people wanted to play blind ass scrubby looking tattooed clown-shoed barbarians, who started in what was believed the in the worst starting zone in the game or be an ugly ass, butt scratching ogre/troll in order to play shaman when they could play "good looking" druids instead to get SoW. it certainly was also helpful that druids were thought to to be the only class who can realistically tackle even red cons thanks to SoW + swarm spells.



There were some servers where druids had twice the population of ANY other class. it makes me wonder if you even played EQ in the first 2 years let alone the first several months.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All it took was for shamans to start hitting 9 and druids 14 for druid's stock to start massively rising. Few people wanted to play blind ass scrubby looking tattooed clown-shoed barbarians, who started in what was believed the in the worst starting zone in the game

That isn't true at all, LOL? First of all, plenty of people found Barbarians to have an appealing look (and as for Ogre/Troll, people had plenty of reason to play those races too, aka their stats, if not the fantasy roleplaying enjoyment of playing an Ogre or Troll caster). Second of all, Everfrost was an amazing starting zone. There was more to hunt there, and across a wider level range, than any other starting zone in the game, and the ambiance of the twisty icy mountains and danger of nighttime was quite enthralling (even if it was more difficult).

Finally, and most importantly, Barbarian Shaman was my first fucking character early in 1999. I was in Blackburrow, and Qeynos Hills, and the Karanas, where ALL of the Human Druids were also starting out. There were more Shaman there than Druids (and more Rangers than Druids as well). Obviously there were a ton of Druids starting over in the Gfay area, but Shaman was not such a scarce class as you say (I saw a decent amount of Ogre/Troll Shaman when I found my way over to that part of the world), and Druids were not found in large quantities everywhere. Warrior was the class that was everywhere, and Ranger was next in line in terms of how many I saw being played during those months (they were basically "Warriors who can also cast snare and use tracking and forage food!" to most people who had progressed a bit, plus the RPG attraction...extremely popular).

I'd really like to know what servers you claim had 2x as many Druids as any other class, because that was not my experience, in any game era. Sure, they were a relatively popular class from the start and got even more popular as they became the class that casual players latched onto (ironically the one class who survived being called bad in Kunark, because despite their weaker power level at the higher levels, people still really liked their travel ability and self-dependability). It's even possible they were the most played class at a certain point, but it wasn't like that during early EQ, and that number you quote sounds overboard to me for later eras, because Druids did still have a stigma attached to them; there was a ton of talk as the Kunark era progressed, about how much worse they were than Cleric or Shaman as the defensive support for a team.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That isn't true at all, LOL? First of all, plenty of people found Barbarians to have an appealing look (and as for Ogre/Troll, people had plenty of reason to play those races too, aka their stats, if not the fantasy roleplaying enjoyment of playing an Ogre or Troll caster). Second of all, Everfrost was an amazing starting zone. There was more to hunt there, and across a wider level range, than any other starting zone in the game, and the ambiance of the twisty icy mountains and danger of nighttime was quite enthralling (even if it was more difficult).

Everfrost was and still is absolute hairyass. Back then people were much more focused on how their characters looked and it heavily influenced not just race selection but class selection. A lot of people full intended to RP their characters
from day one and derp captain cave maaaan! didn't exactly appeal to them. And night blindness was a big, big thing back then, especially in everfrost and especially for a newb with limited game knowledge. Your corpse rotted a lot faster back then, especially at low levels.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Finally, and most importantly, Barbarian Shaman was my first fucking character early in 1999. I was in Blackburrow, and Qeynos Hills, and the Karanas, where ALL of the Human Druids were also starting out. There were more Shaman there than Druids (and more Rangers than Druids as well). Obviously there were a ton of Druids starting over in the Gfay area, but Shaman was not such a scarce class as you say (I saw a decent amount of Ogre/Troll Shaman when I found my way over to that part of the world), and Druids were not found in large quantities everywhere. Warrior was the class that was everywhere, and Ranger was next in line in terms of how many I saw being played during those months (they were basically "Warriors who can also cast snare and use tracking and forage food!" to most people who had progressed a bit, plus the RPG attraction...extremely popular).

Druids were found fucking everywhere outdoors. People always used to joke about making sure "to get your druid spayed or neutered".

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd really like to know what servers you claim had 2x as many Druids as any other class, because that was not my experience, in any game era.

Any time a new sever would go up I'd log on to check out what class players the first couple of 50s were shaping up to be. I also usually checked player populations for the hell of it as well and other things i was curious about, like how often would people roll a a non troll/ogre SK or barbarian instead of an ogre/troll. Turns out a fucking shiton. People cared a LOT more about looks than min max back then

[Guesty07]

You guys realise how daft it is to argue about your distant memories of something right? Every single person has a different tale of "how things were back then".

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys realise how daft it is to argue about your distant memories of something right? Every single person has a different tale of "how things were back then".

Share the stories then! For me, much of it is not a "distant memory", but rather something very memorable and ingrained in me. There aren't many posters who were actually playing 1999 EQ and I doubt most people were as studious about it as I was. Back then as a kid, I was scouring the internet at school every day (during study hall, lunch period) and reading up on what people were doing in the game, and then going home and playing as much possible. Once the summer hit, my whole life was pretty much Everquest, I was non-stop living it, playing almost all day long and reading up online whenever there was server downtime or when my parents wanted me to take a break (which amounted to me telling them I would go biking/swimming, but I actually went to the library to use the computers there and read EQ info, LOL).

[Guesty07]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Share the stories then! For me, much of it is not a "distant memory", but rather something very memorable and ingrained in me. There aren't many posters who were actually playing 1999 EQ and I doubt most people were as studious about it as I was. Back then as a kid, I was scouring the internet at school every day (during study hall, lunch period) and reading up on what people were doing in the game, and then going home and playing as much possible. Once the summer hit, my whole life was pretty much Everquest, I was non-stop living it, playing almost all day long and reading up online whenever there was server downtime or when my parents wanted me to take a break (which amounted to me telling them I would go biking/swimming, but I actually went to the library to use the computers there and read EQ info, LOL).

Its memorable for everybody who played back then, myself included, yet everybody still has different stories. Memories are funny, fuzzie things.