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[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

30 wizards casting Sunstrike 8x = 387,600 dmg in 48 seconds. For a total sustained DPS (because everything is dead already anyway) of 8,705 DPS.

In such an instance you can utilize a two or three cleric CH chain and not even sweat them running out of mana before winning.

No one can beat that.

Now do the calculations for 13 wizards casting PBAoE x 39 trash mobs.

Now you may say, but Vulaak has 800,000 hp. Well 8,705÷2=4,037.5 and 800,000÷4037.5 absolutely for sure infinity DPS = 198.1424148607 Seconds until Vulaak loots. Or just about two and a half minutes, or 15 CHs maybe, I don't know jack shit about clerics. Half the wizards are medding or clicking robes at any given time while the other half are simultaneously nuking HARD. You can't know which is which until someone loots a Vulaak.

Pretty cool huh?

I mean think about this for a second... 8 pallies, 1 ench, 1 clickie rez, 30 wizards. U don't even really need to bother with heals. The MTs just soak the mob till it dies. Pretty quickly I may add. There's your classic 40 "man" *coughs like a karana plague victim* vlassic raid force.

And all of the above can worship Errolisi Marr. Best classes. Best diety. Gg folks, gg.

[magnetaress]

Further more, like, 20 wizards can rend Lady Vox within 18.9 seconds.

Conversely it'd take 20 rogues more than 2.6~ minutes to stab her to death. She would likely devour them all within 30 seconds.

[Ligma]

Further more, like, 20 wizards can rend Lady Vox within 18.9 seconds.

You're entirely ignoring the resists of boss mobs. If you want to do those calculations you need to do them with lures and dragon/giant bane, which don't even exist on green.

No one is landing rend or ice comet on vox.

[Sacer]

Originally Posted by Ligma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're entirely ignoring the resists of boss mobs. If you want to do those calculations you need to do them with lures and dragon/giant bane, which don't even exist on green.

No one is landing rend or ice comet on vox.

This, but also people forget rogues can evade, your dps is limited to how much aggro your tank have, while rogue can mostly do their max dps no matter what.

[NPC]

Originally Posted by Sacer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This, but also people forget rogues can evade, your dps is limited to how much aggro your tank have, while rogue can mostly do their max dps no matter what.

The best tanks in classic are paladins chain stunning while wizards nuke. Kunark warriors finally get weapons with proc that keep up if they max dex an haste. There some warrior weapons wizards can chain nuke an never get agro. It's all about equipment, an if your raiding, they better have the best equipment for MA. The best of course is the SoD out Velious. This is a classic example of MA gear directly affecting the outcome of a raid, which a large portion of the population still does not get, or see, ever.
Wizards are trash for the most part, I would say dont bother with one if you don't plan on getting a mana stone or mana robe and the epic weapon. Preferably all three, then that burst DPS becomes sustained DPS. Higher level your draught spells cast fast (3secs) enough you can alternate between mana robe casts (3secs) and damage draught spells an still get your naturally sitting med, just like shaman canny dancing.

[NPC]

Originally Posted by Ligma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're entirely ignoring the resists of boss mobs. If you want to do those calculations you need to do them with lures and dragon/giant bane, which don't even exist on green.

No one is landing rend or ice comet on vox.

I've landed Ice Comet on Vox on live. But no, you would want to use Conflagration on Vox, fire based. 625 dmg, 8 casts a min, 5k dmg per min.
Rend doesn't land on shit, or I should say, on live it doesn't. This server, it's probably the best spell in the game.
Resists are less for wizards then any others, plus when you die your mana gets completely restored and your agro is wiped. So dying is actually preferred at times, as you can instantly med spells an start casting again if needed. Can't remember if classic had bind restrictions around its raid mobs.

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by NPC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've landed Ice Comet on Vox on live. But you would want to use Conflagration on Vox, fire based. 625 dmg, 8 casts a min, 5k dmg per min.

I'm not sure dps calculations are done in damage per minute. With no fizzles Conflaguration is over 110 dps.

[magnetaress]

Rogues also have to hit the mobs with their puny SBDs, gg.

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogues also have to hit the mobs with their puny SBDs, gg.

Bitch this was never a classic eq discussion. We talking about kunark + where 10 rogues can make a 32k hp dragon disappear

[NPC]

Originally Posted by Uuruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bitch this was never a classic eq discussion. We talking about kunark + where 10 rogues can make a 32k hp dragon disappear

So 10 rogues? Wizards get 1600dmg, casts 6 times a min, 7200 per min.
So 5 wizards can do more than that in 1 min.

Base spells 2k, casts 5 times a min, 10k per min
With these spells 3 wizards just about do that, 1 min.

When Vox is trying to cast complete heal, nothing beats a wizard group burn for the win.