Greedy Wizards and Druids

[TomisFeline]

time is the commodity,
which seems to be a point missed by some here.

your Porter chose to spend it (time) porting you
in exchange of spending it (time) on something else that generates pixel wealth.

tip the porter, ffs. what the hell is wrong with you?
on the flip side, were I a porter, id ignore you as to never make the mistake of porting you again.

I believe smelly butt face has an accurate analysis on why hard prices aren't set. If prices get set, competition rises, standards protect the consumer, and the port cartel breaks down.

that being said, I happen to like the port cartel, and those of you who play classes that make more money have an easy opportunity to make someone happy by giving them more money.

when I played an enchanter, for example, id be embarrassed not giving 1pp per level minimum. understandable this isn't the case for a warrior.

[Canelek]

One of the best things about being able to port others is not porting others. It just isn't worth it in the long run.

[Smyd]

Summary for those of you that missed the actual point (because he did tip if you didn't get that far into his post) :

Wizards and Druids - Don't complain about the amount you were tipped if you didn't clearly stipulate what your minimum required tip amount was while offering/negotiating for your services.

If you ask for a random tip amount, then expect a random amount.

[KingOrkish]

How the fuck are there always thread about this? It's not rocket science. 1pp per level is the "standard". If you can't afford it, speak on it. I tip anywhere from 20-70pp for a port depending on how my pocketbook is looking. If I'm low on funds, I let them now. Never once have I ever had someone gripe that I didn't tip well enough. Seriously makes me question the character of these individuals getting screamed on by porters.

[Smyd]

Originally Posted by KingOrkish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How the fuck are there always thread about this? It's not rocket science. 1pp per level is the "standard". If you can't afford it, speak on it. I tip anywhere from 20-70pp for a port depending on how my pocketbook is looking. If I'm low on funds, I let them now. Never once have I ever had someone gripe that I didn't tip well enough. Seriously makes me question the character of these individuals getting screamed on by porters.

It's also not rocket science to understand that giving what you can afford to someone who is asking for just that, is very far from the type of character you are describing.

If you're the type of person to offer ports for a random tip amount, what type of person are you to expect more than any given amount?

There are no written standards for this that players can religiously abide by, so trying to impose your own personal rules on others that may not be in the position to afford this, is quite unfair.

[bodenn]

I am happy to get what ever the person pays. I don't set prices so I can't get mad if you pay less than i think you should. I also will add you to my /ignore list if you don't tip at all.

If you tip well i encourage you to PM me even when my tag is down because i will drop a quad in a heart beat for a good repeat customer.

I wont take a tip from a low level that you can tell isn't twinkled. I also buff them to the max.

I cast group SOW no matter what followed by the port. I load the destination prior to going to get them for less down time. I always regen anyone not at full health and necros if I am certain by just looking.

I don't do hammer hill pick ups and I don't do skyfire ramp pickups. I have been offered insane amounts to break this rule and have done so but I don't offer that in tells. Simply "sorry not bound there"

I am fine will smaller tips if Crack is included. I will also port for no tip and not /ignore if asked to up front.

I seldom get bad tips 1pp per level or 50pp if above 50 is just fine and dandy. My favorite is when give the option of a cash value or an unnamed item. I love surprises.

I even like gold because banking for me is easier than you.

[Benanov]

I've had a silent policy for rezzes that is basically "whatever you stick in the trade window" - and I think I'm going to have to do away with it. Maybe at least the silent part.

1) No one brings me booze, bandages, or symbol reagents. (Okay, one person paid me in dots. I love you.)
2) If you're bound in a city, and you get rezzed, and you have all of 6p on you...you missed the boat there, I'm afraid. I even promised my group a cut. 500 mana for the 50% rez is a nontrivial amount. Well at least it was 1 plat for everyone. My bar was "if they tip, at least they tried" - I'm rethinking that.
3) If you don't tip well the first time, I might find myself less likely to rez you in the future.
4) I don't have to rez you. I'm doing it because I know what it's like to lose a chunk of orange off your bar for some stupid thing that happened. Show some appreciation for me undoing the stupidity that was your senseless death.

[mcoy]

Originally Posted by Benanov [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've had a silent policy for rezzes that is basically "whatever you stick in the trade window" - and I think I'm going to have to do away with it. Maybe at least the silent part.

1) No one brings me booze, bandages, or symbol reagents. (Okay, one person paid me in dots. I love you.)
2) If you're bound in a city, and you get rezzed, and you have all of 6p on you...you missed the boat there, I'm afraid. I even promised my group a cut. 500 mana for the 50% rez is a nontrivial amount. Well at least it was 1 plat for everyone. My bar was "if they tip, at least they tried" - I'm rethinking that.
3) If you don't tip well the first time, I might find myself less likely to rez you in the future.
4) I don't have to rez you. I'm doing it because I know what it's like to lose a chunk of orange off your bar for some stupid thing that happened. Show some appreciation for me undoing the stupidity that was your senseless death.

If anyone's on your blacklist or if you're just not feeling it - tell them to pm me.

-Mcoy

[Swish]

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[kaluppo]

Originally Posted by Madae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I get that you're entitled, and spoiled, by rich folks, but if your first response is to complain because you didn't get the tip you wanted for a port (that you also didn't specifically ask for), then you can rightly go fuck yourself.

Way too little information here.

1). What level was your character that you got a port for?

2). How much was your tip/donation that the porter complained about?

Originally Posted by Madae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't get it. Perhaps you can, instead, tell me what you feel is appropriate so I can judge whether or not your time is worth it to me. Don't make me guess when, clearly, your expectations are through the roof, just so you can pitch a fit when you don't get it.

As has been previously stated, 1 pp per level is the popular rule of thumb. But this is just a guideline. Tipping 12 PP even if you are say lvl 20 is not going to ruffle too many feathers. Just try to be somewhat close to 1 pp per level and you'll be fine.

If you can't or won't come close to that guideline then communicate this before the port. I had a lvl 25 toon send me a tell asking if I would port him for 5 PP because it was all he had on him. I ported him for free and was happy to do it. Now if that same player solicited me for a port and then just tipped that small amount for his level without warning, I would have called him a cheap prick.

Originally Posted by Madae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't it all just money anyway? When all you're doing is standing around being useless in ecom and you have nothing better to do, and the entire process is free anyway, shouldn't you be thankful you get anything at all?

Are boats not free? Are your legs broken? It's just time and the game is free. Shouldn't you be thankful that you don't actually need a port? You may want one but you don't need one. If you are going to be a cheap tipper then communicate this up front and claim whatever you are offering is all you have on you.

Originally Posted by Madae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure there will be a bunch of people lining up to tell me where I'm wrong about this, but let's go back to point #1 here; if it's important to you, form a fucking a union and set a price already.

That would be the Dial a Port union.

You want free ports? Put all your gear in bags and claim to be on a corpse run. You may wait longer for a port but at least the price will be affordable, even to the cheapest of port tippers.