Item Recharging on Green/Teal

[Firepuff]

Personally, I think the P1999 staff, should aim to recreate the "spirit" of the classic trilogy, rather than emulate its wonky implementation and design flaws.

That includes learning from the past mistakes Verant did.
One could even argue that "legacy items" that were made permanently unattainable (like manastones), shouldn't have been on green at all.

Keeping unbalanced mechanics and wonky exploits in the game on purpose, just for "Classic Sake", goes against the original spirit of the game imo.

It's not really up to me though. :P

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by jacob54311 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah. In my mind that kind of thing falls into the completely broken category of things that should be changed, even if they were "classic", like the boats not working properly.

Lol. Is it really THAT big of an issue?

If someone wants to burn 5 plat to do 200 damage to 4 blue cons, who cares? It'll cost an arm and a leg and be a pain in the ass recharging constantly to do it much beyond level 25. By the time someone has the plat to spare and wants to make an alt they could as easily hire a druid or necro or whatever to PL them, except that way the plat isn't sunk into a merchant to keep down the inflation plenty of people like to complain about and they didn't need to spend time killing Mina to pile up a dozen or more wands to make it remotely bearable to do.

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Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol. Is it really THAT big of an issue?

If someone wants to burn 5 plat to do 200 damage to 4 blue cons, who cares? It'll cost an arm and a leg and be a pain in the ass recharging constantly to do it much beyond level 25. By the time someone has the plat to spare and wants to make an alt they could as easily hire a druid or necro or whatever to PL them, except that way the plat isn't sunk into a merchant to keep down the inflation plenty of people like to complain about and they didn't need to spend time killing Mina to pile up a dozen or more wands to make it remotely bearable to do.

when the 4 blues you kill drop gems and items that sell for over 10p each and a vendor isn't far away then it's potentially profitable.

[Tecmos Deception]

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when the 4 blues you kill drop gems and items that sell for over 10p each and a vendor isn't far away then it's potentially profitable.

Right.

So it's not that big of a deal.

You're spending 15pp to kill 4 niche level 20s that may break even or slightly profit you, on a server crowded with people who would also like to kill those mobs. Or you're spending 25pp to kill 4 level 30s that cover your costs with fine steel by a little, or are halflings that every necro and evil sham on the server would like to kill. Or whatever.

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Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right.

So it's not that big of a deal.

This trivializes leveling though and this is why it was removed on Red. Not like leveling that hard anyway, but it's detracting from the classic experience when people can just solo quad stuff instead of grouping. It's a similar argument for why we do not allow multi boxing.

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This trivializes leveling though and this is why it was removed on Red. Not like leveling that hard anyway, but it's detracting from the classic experience when people can just solo quad stuff instead of grouping. It's a similar argument for why we do not allow multi boxing.

It doesn't trivialize leveling until you've already leveled, and farmed. And even then, it only trivializes leveling for someone who also can find 4 mobs that drop at least bronze every kill around level 20, or fine steel or better every kill by 30. And even THEN, it still is only possible if nobody else is competing for the 4 mobs you need.

That "trivializes leveling" about as much as a ZEM in befallen does. Which is not at all, because it only works with a bunch of provisos and only for a minority of players.


AKA like I said, it's basically no different than paying for power level except it isn't even a plat sink.

[Rooj]

I don't think being able to recharge items by repurchasing them was an intended game mechanic and definitely something I'd like to see removed. Buuuut I have a long list of things I'd liked to see removed (like the other major unintended feature, multiquesting) lol. I don't think item recharging or multiquesting is truly a part of the Classic feel. But I also believe in earning everything the proper way, so /shrug. Humanity obsesses over making things easier or more convenient.

[Argh]

Seems like killing level 40 mobs with Red Wood Wands would take more effort than killing them normally would.

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Seems like killing level 40 mobs with Red Wood Wands would take more effort than killing them normally would.

5 or so wands all instant cast 76 dmg 4 target aoe nuke with 5 charges = 4 dead spectres in about 1 min.

30p to recharge them. specs drop 10p scythes fairly often + gems and words so I imagine you'd break even if not profit depending on gem drops. 6min respawn and you spent zero mana too.

[Yoite]

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5 or so wands all instant cast 76 dmg 4 target aoe nuke with 5 charges = 4 dead spectres in about 1 min.

30p to recharge them. specs drop 10p scythes fairly often + gems and words so I imagine you'd break even if not profit depending on gem drops. 6min respawn and you spent zero mana too.

ya i seen that ranger in oot doing that when i went to check the gargs on the undead island. i was wondering wtf was going on, how was a ranger was quad kiting instant nuking down the specs in seconds.

being creative i guess, idk i'll leave the discussion on if that type of stuff should be left in to yall but it certainly made me raise an eyebrow.

i dont get the power gaming in this old ass game, but people probably dont always understand my enjoyments from the game either